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| Jon Levine / New York Post: |
Trump supports H-1B visas, saying “I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B”, siding with Musk in the MAGA debate on the issue — President-elect Trump told The Post Saturday he supports immigration visas for highly skilled workers …
Bluesky: @juddlegum, @helenkennedy, @brianfung.me, @crazysaguaro.com, @sagaciousai, @romitmehta.com, @brianmwise, @jsargentr, and @samsteindc. Mastodon: @KimPerales@toad.social
Threads: @marcslove, @pstomlinson, @ronaldfilipkowski, @carnage4life, @tomgara, @ingathewriter, @chancerydaily, @ronaldfilipkowski, @anthonysarchiv, @paul_rietschka, and @vantazach
X: @elonmusk, @acnewsitics, @rpsagainsttrump, @teroterotero, @vkhosla, @suitablepolitic, @mattyglesias, @kenbensinger, @usa_polling, @radishharmers, @sunnyright, @daralderson, @levie, @frankluntz, @richardhanania, @levinejonathan, @gavinnewsom, @afpost, @johncardillo, @disclosetv, @ianwcrosby, @jamesamcghee, @vikhyatk, @gunnelswarren, @kylamb8, @slatzism, @chesschick01, @samstein, @danieldimartino, @harryjsisson, @kenbensinger, @jason, @emeriticus, @af_insight, @vkhosla, @gundamnocontext, @jason_pontin, @rpsagainsttrump, @zsk, @artcandee, @internethippo, @metzgov, @danprimack, @vkhosla, @harjtaggar, @mattyglesias, @mattyglesias, @realbootyeater, @stclairashley, and @stclairashley
More:
David McAfee / Raw Story: ‘Are you selling us out?’: Trump's new comments met with immediate backlash from MAGA base
Jessica Garrison / Los Angeles Times: President-elect Trump weighs into debate among supporters to back H-1B visa program
Henry Bodkin / Australian Financial Review: Trump caught in another Musk fight - this time on immigration
Sam Corbishley / Metro.co.uk: What is H-1B as MAGA ‘civil war’ breaks out with Elon Musk and the far-right
Sundance / The Last Refuge: A Highly Toxic Silicon Valley Meltdown Over Well Documented H1B Visa Fraud Explodes
Taylor Lorenz / User Mag: A MAGA civil war is breaking out
Oliver O'Connell / The Independent: Steve Bannon mocks ‘toddler’ Elon Musk after he tells X user to ‘f*** yourself’ over visa bust-up
Lauren Martinez / ABC7: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy clash with far-right critics on H-1B visas: Here's what they're saying
John Oyewale / The Daily Caller: 'It's A Great Program': Trump Apparently Comes Out In Favor Of H-1B Visas Amid Musk, Ramaswamy Clash With MAGA
Fox News: Trump says he is a ‘believer’ in H-1B visas for skilled migrant workers as right spars on immigration: report
Maureen Meehan / Benzinga: Musk And Ramaswamy Back Foreign Tech Workers, Sparking Rift In MAGA Trump Camp & Twitter Firestorm
Joshua Wilburn / RADAR: Elon Musk Mocked for Acting Like A ‘Toddler’ After Tesla Owner Rages ‘F— Yourself In The Face’ at Trump Supporters As H-1B Visa Debate Intensifies
Ross O'Keefe / Washington Examiner: Trump backs Musk and Ramaswamy on H-1B visas: 'I've always liked the visas'
Jason Ma / Fortune: Trump backs immigration visas for skilled workers after MAGA followers turn on Elon Musk over H-1Bs
Bluesky:
Judd Legum / @juddlegum: Trump, DECEMBER 28, 2024: “I have always been in favor of the visas... I've been a believer in H-1B... It's a great program” — Trump, MARCH 15, 2016: “I know the H1B very well... We shouldn't have it. Very, very bad for workers... it's unfair for our workers. And we should end it.” [images]
Helen Kennedy / @helenkennedy: I've been predicting that Trump would side with his racist “Indians are smelly” MAGA horde over Musk and Ramaswamy in the right wing civil war over tech visas, but it looks like I may have been mistaken. — nypost.com/2024/12/28/u...
Brian Fung / @brianfung.me: Trump claims to have sponsored “many H-1Bs visas on my properties,” but I just did a five-minute search on USCIS's employer data hub — covering H-1B petitions from FY2009-2024 — and I wasn't able to find Trump or his largest businesses on it. www.uscis.gov/tools/report... [embedded post]
@brianmwise: He's also had a bunch of illegal immigrants working for him on absolutely every single property he owns, and uses contracting companies that are known for it to create a false layer of insulation for his MAGAT followers. — Multiple articles & ICE raids going back to 1980s NYC. For real.
Jill Sargent Russell, PhD / @jsargentr: This will be interesting. [embedded post]
Mastodon:
Kim Perales / @KimPerales@toad.social: Musk is in charge, Trump knows his funding will ensure that he can have anything he wants while in the WH, after all, Musk bought him the presidency. Trump admits that he's used H1-B visas at his properties, & will likely make certain that Musk gets all the H1-B visas he'd like for his businesses. …
Threads:
Marc Love / @marcslove: Not just H1B's but immigrants in general have been America's superpower for generations. This is not an opinion, it's a verifiable fact. For over a century, the world's greatest minds and innovators have been drawn to the promise of America's opportunity and have made our economy the largest in the world.
Patrick Tomlinson / @pstomlinson: H-1B visas and Mexican immigrants are the same phenomenon. People from impoverished countries coming to America to do the same job for less money than any American would accept. It's the already rich getting even richer by bringing in people they don't need to pay fairly.
Ron Filipkowski / @ronaldfilipkowski: So basically the Trump Admin's immigration policy is to increase the number of people from other countries who come in and take high-skilled, high paying American jobs, while deporting everyone else doing physically grueling jobs for shit wages?
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: In a rational world, Trump and Elon being aligned that America needs H-1Bs because American workers aren't skilled enough would be a red pill moment for MAGA as they realize the GOP is hollowing out the education system then saying their kids are not good enough to compete. …
Tom Gara / @tomgara: This is basically the Hillbilly Elegy critique of rural whites, and JD Vance just fully walked it back in favor of racial grievance politics when he realized which way the wind was blowing. Which is why JD is now vice president and Vivek is now a reply guy
Inga Gardner / @ingathewriter: So, just to be clear, Musk is admitting to H1B visa fraud here. Employees are supposed to demonstrate that they cannot find employees that can do the work within the existing population before being granted visas. The program is explicitly not to be used simply to undercut the wages of the existing population.
@chancerydaily: truly don't know if I've ever seen people I hate more say things I could disagree with less
Ron Filipkowski / @ronaldfilipkowski: Elon's telling us the H1Bs are all super geniuses while Trump is telling us they are cutting his grass.
@anthonysarchiv: BREAKING: Donald Trump has told NYP that he supports immigration visas for highly skilled workers, appearing to side with Elon Musk. “I've always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That's why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations. …
Paul Rietschka / @paul_rietschka: Trump has truly lost a step. Old Trump would've immediately recognized a way to capitalize on this with his cult by doubling down on the racism, announcing an extension of the pogrom he's planning to include HB1 visa holders, and then issuing some garbage fantasy about how America, when rid of the scourge of HB1 visa holders, will enter a golden age. …
X:
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: @stevenmackeyman The reason I'm in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B. Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot
Alex Cole / @acnewsitics: I agree with Musk, many people in the Republican Party are hateful racists. [image]
@rpsagainsttrump: Steve Bannon on Musk: “This is why he never goes after the CCP...Elon Musk is a total and complete phony...He is owned lock, stock, and barrel by the Chinese Communist Party, and he acts like it.” (March 2023) [video]
Tero Kuittinen / @teroterotero: @levie You do know he is lying again, right? He does not have HB1 visa employees on his properties. They belong to a different visa category of seasonal, low income workers. Why would you amplify this lie?
Vinod Khosla / @vkhosla: The immigrant driven Silicon Valley startup ecosystem is the envy of the world. If I remember some research from Berkley, something close to 40% of startups have immigrant founders. Where would we with them starting companies in Bangalore, Shanghai, Tel Aviv or Estonia?
Derek / @suitablepolitic: By the way, Trump's position on this was clear for about 8 years. I only wish he continued silence so I could keep up my bit. H-1B rejections spiked substantially in his term because it gets abused. He made no move while POTUS to pressure Congress to abolish it.
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: You're not going to get this done on a party-like vote because obviously *some* GOP members are fanatical nativists, but Trump can sell his base on this (just like it was Obama who set deportation records).
Ken Bensinger / @kenbensinger: We first noted this in 2015. Note it's all H-2 workers https://www.buzzfeednews.com/ ...
Sridhar Ramesh / @radishharmers: My hatred for Elon Musk is so unwavering, I'm starting to think Indian tech workers do need to take their shitskin asses back to their own country.
Sunny / @sunnyright: We're about to find out why Trump using H-1B visas extensively is totally different and okay in a highly nuanced way you just don't understand
@daralderson: It's not just Elon and Vivek who think Americans aren't intellectual and hard working enough to be hired. For YEARS Donald Trump has only hired foreign workers to work at Mar-A-Lago & his golf courses. So MAGA...seems like “America First” was just a phony campaign slogan 🤷🏼♀️ [image]
Aaron Levie / @levie: Trump just came out in full support of H-1Bs [image]
Frank Luntz / @frankluntz: Trump takes Elon's side of immigration visa debate: “I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It's a great program.” https://nypost.com/...
Richard Hanania / @richardhanania: You should see all the Indian groupchats I just got added to right now.
Jon Levine / @levinejonathan: NEW from me President Trump tells me he supports H-1B visas calling it “a great program” and adds “I have many H-1B visas on my properties” https://nypost.com/...
Gavin Newsom / @gavinnewsom: .@ElonMusk is right when he said: “you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be.” The same principle should apply to supporting our farmworkers, construction, and trades workers who build and feed our country. Top talent is top talent.
AF Post / @afpost: This should not come as a surprise considering Trump pledged to increase legal immigration throughout his 2024 presidential campaign. In 2016, he opposed the H-1B visa program, on the grounds that it undercut American workers. During his first term, he imposed stricter rules on [video]
John Cardillo / @johncardillo: In supporting H-1B caps being raised by saying “I have many H-1B visas on my properties,” Trump said the quiet part out loud. Those aren't tech genius jobs. This has nothing to do with the .0001 of exceptional talent. It's about undercutting Americans for cheaper labor.
@disclosetv: JUST IN - Trump supports Musk, Ramaswamy on H-1B visas, says he uses them himself — NY Post [image]
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: 1/8 I'm very sad today to see that @Bench has shut down. I've avoided speaking publicly about Bench since just over 3 years ago when I was fired from the company I co-founded. I still don't have a lot of appetite to talk about it tbh, but think at least a short statement is
James / @jamesamcghee: @LevineJonathan What jobs did he say these H-1B visa holders have at his properties? Those jobs aren't mentioned in the story, but it's unclear what specialized knowledge field would require many visa holders at a hotel or golf course.
Vik / @vikhyatk: My SAT score was 2370 and I didn't get into MIT because of structural discrimination against Pokemon characters. Had to settle for Yale.
Warren Gunnels / @gunnelswarren: The problem is not the H-1B guest worker from India or the tomato picker from Guatemala. The problem is the oligarchs who became billionaires by exploiting workers, suppressing wages & shipping jobs abroad. Billionaires want you to wage a culture war while they win the class war.
Kyle Lamb / @kylamb8: Trump in 2016: “The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay.” [image]
@slatzism: At risk of getting yeeted for QRTing the King, I think his post here gets to the very crux of the debate. When someone invokes Nikola Tesla as an example of why immigration is good, they are communicating a belief that immigration can uniformly produce the same results... As
Natalie F Danelishen / @chesschick01: Trump backs @elonmusk on H-1B visas: “I've always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That's why we have them,” Trump said by phone, referring to the H-1B program, which permits companies to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations. “I have many [image]
Sam Stein / @samstein: Trump, who as president issued an order temporarily suspending new work visas, now says he likes H1b visas. Why the change? Musk one ask? https://nypost.com/...
Daniel Di Martino / @danieldimartino: If I'm not mistaken, Melania Trump came to America as a model under the subcategory of the H-1B visa called H-1B3 for fashion models. [image]
Harry Sisson / @harryjsisson: WOW! Donald Trump just took the side of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy on the H-1B visas and gave the middle finger to millions of his supporters. MAGA civil war continues to get worse🍿
Ken Bensinger / @kenbensinger: Wondering if Trump actually means H-2B visas, which are for unskilled workers and which Trump has been using for years, as documented by @jvgarrison @jsvine and me numerous times (see below) Trump staffs his resorts with H-2B gardeners, waitstaff, etc NOT H-1B engineers etc
@jason: There are plenty of valid criticisms of the H1B visa program that should be considered to improve it. The most significant change is that you should be able to transfer your H1B to another company within, say, six or 12 months. This would remove the “indentured servants”
Pedro L. Gonzalez / @emeriticus: Like I've said, Trump agrees with Musk on immigration more than he agrees with his base and certainly more than his staunchest online/anon supporters. “I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It's a great program.” [image]
@af_insight: Donald J Trump 2016 on H-1B Visas “We believe jobs must be offered to American workers first” [video]
Vinod Khosla / @vkhosla: Remember, these same US companies , with less regulation, can hire the same talent overseas at lower wages instead of hiring US workers. They want talent, irrespective of national origin. And the follow-on startups will happen there not here. Startup employees are often
@gundamnocontext: This is literally how these people think; they think you should work long hours, you should work holidays, you should never go on vacation, you should come into work sick, you should spend this sole, single, most valuable and coveted life of your's as a whipped dog. [image]
Jason Pontin / @jason_pontin: Let's bring the next 10 or 20 Vinods to the US. But it's not just future Vinods—the top 0.1%, as Vinod himself says (or, the top 0.001% to give Vinod his due). Bring the top 1% or even top 5%. We've room enough, and they will become law-abiding, productive, high-consuming
@rpsagainsttrump: NEW: Donald Trump, in an interview with The New York Post, expressed support for immigration visas for highly skilled workers, aligning with Elon Musk in the ongoing MAGA civil war over the issue. “I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I've been a believer in H-1B. I have [image]
Zoe Kleinman / @zsk: Oof. The sudden closure of Bench, an accountancy software platform, leaves 35,000 US businesses in a scramble. The firm is suggesting they contact the IRS to ask for extensions on tax deadlines. Founder Ian Crosby says he was fired from the firm after disagreeing with its new
Art Candee / @artcandee: When he was in office, Donald Trump signed an executive order suspending companies from issuing new H-1B visas to hire foreign nationals during the pandemic. Now his boss, Elon Musk, wants to ensure that doesn't happen again so he can continue to hire cheaper indentured
Dan Primack / @danprimack: How things change... Trump in 2016: “The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration... I will end forever the use of the H-1B” https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ ...
Vinod Khosla / @vkhosla: We need to get well beyond the 0.1%. More technical talent means more regular jobs created in the US. As @om wrote about me: “In the 24 years he has spent in the United States he has helped create 40 companies, business which have produced a total of 150 billion in market value.
Harj Taggar / @harjtaggar: If the right expunge their crazies and the left have to follow suit, then maybe we could dream of a center left vs center right election in 2028.
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: I think this is wrong. It makes sense for Trump to proceed with caution when advancing right-wing policy (like abortion restrictions) but if he and Musk want to loudly champion expanded legal immigration they can carry the day — it'll just require working with some Democrats.
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: I think Trump is misstating the situation when he says he has many H-1B visa holders on his properties, though. The situation as I understand it is that he employs H-2B non-agricultural seasonal workers. https://davieslegal.com/...
@realbootyeater: Trump supports H-1B and taking jobs from hardworking Americans! Whoooo caaaares if those Americans are some of the stupidest sons of bitches we've ever heard open their mouths. If smart Indian Immigrants can do the job, surely Trump's poorly educated can do it, too.
Ashley St. Clair / @stclairashley: Trump said he has “tons of H1B workers” on his properties His property workers have J1 visas. Jon Levine is an idiot & hack for calling Trump with no context and zero follow-up questions. Made a disaster PR cycle when this isn't even Trump's position.
Ashley St. Clair / @stclairashley: Disastrous response.
Forums:
r/AnythingGoesNews: BREAKING: Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’
r/stupidpol: Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’
r/Conservative: Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’
r/DemocraticSocialism: Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’
| Angrej Singh / Axios: |
Some conservative critics of Elon Musk allege censorship and claim they were stripped of their X verification badges after challenging his views on H-1B visas — - Since Musk purchased Twitter and implemented sweeping staff cuts, it's often been difficult to get answers as to whether …
Bluesky: @marcello65, @alpenglowdreams, @pcrritesgood, @anildash.com, @rmac, @zombiscribe, @mergesort.me, @attorneynora, @wajali, @wajali, @mmasnick, @keithedwards, @aaronparnas, @andrewjweinstein.com, and @mmasnick
Threads: @burnettejudie, @carnage4life, and @davethewaveofficial
X: @elonmusk, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @rpsagainsttrump, @elonmusk, @scottadamssays, @ryangrim, @canteverdie, @lauraloomer, @realalexjones, @farhip, @elonmusk, @t_blom, @canteverdie, @jason, @jamesrbuk, @esjesjesj, @growing_daniel, @willchamberlain, @sm, @aja_cortes, @devahaz, @elonmusk, @buccocapital, @buccocapital, @levie, @danprimack, @mattyglesias, @mattbruenig, @basedtorba, @freemattkim, @noahpinion, @lauraloomer, @alexberenson, @elonmusk, @endwokeness, @stevelovesammo, @scottadamssays, @basedtorba, @basedtorba, @basedtorba, @basedtorba, @basedtorba, @basedtorba, @raheemkassam, @realmichaelseif, @basedtorba, @notpbd, @scottadamssays, @marionawfal, @scobleizer, @lynaldencontact, @matthewstoller, @lauraloomer, @redsteeze, @elonmusk, @alexberenson, @paulbernaluk, @sweetser_kyle, @harrylotuseater, @plzbepatient, @plzbepatient, @elijahschaffer, @catturd2, @stclairashley, @cernovich, @lauraloomer, @shawn_farash, @stclairashley, @stillgray, @bannons_warroom, @pastordscott, @ronfilipkowski, @punk9059, @dogrightgirl, @scottadamssays, @elonmusk, @elonmusk, @elonmusk, @lauraloomer, @elonmusk, @elonmusk, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @johnmccloy, @lauraloomer, @gavinwax, @autismcapital, @lauraloomer, @rl9631, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @cb_doge, @ronfilipkowski, @dril, @lauraloomer, @lauraloomer, @adamkinzinger, @p_kallioniemi, @libsoftiktok, @lauraloomer, @repmtg, @gavinwax, @conservativeog, @antoniogm, @theprestonparra, @owenshroyer1776, @raheemkassam, @marionawfal, @elonmusk, @gavinwax, @owenshroyer1776, and @dreamleaf5
Forums: r/AnythingGoesNews, r/themayormccheese, r/FreeSpeech, and r/KnowledgeFight
More:
Charlie Nash / Mediaite: Elon Musk's Critics Stripped of Verification Badge After Publicly Challenging Billionaire: ‘The Beginning Stages of Censorship’
Donie O'Sullivan / CNN: MAGA opponents of Elon Musk claim he stripped them of their X badges
Josh Kovensky / Talking Points Memo: Who Got Duped? MAGA Activists Worry That Nativism And Tech Oligarchy May Not Go Hand In Hand
Stephanie Kaloi / The Wrap: Elon Musk Vows ‘War’ in Defense of H-1B Visa Program: ‘F-k Yourself in the Face’
Oliver Willis / Daily Kos: Explaining the right: Why Musk and MAGA are so mad at Wikipedia
Nabaparna Bhattacharya / Benzinga: MAGA Conservatives Accuse Elon Musk of Censorship Over Immigration Disagreements on X
Balloon Juice: H-1B — The fight between Ketamine Boy and the MAGAts is definitely a time to root for injuries …
AJ Dellinger / Gizmodo: Elon Musk Agrees With Tweet Saying Americans Aren't Smart Enough for Tech Jobs
Ben Blanchet / HuffPost: CNN Host Spots Elon Musk's Free Speech Hypocrisy Amid Right-Wing Clash On Immigration
Filip Timotija / The Hill: Musk calls some MAGA supporters ‘contemptible fools’ as visa row intensifies
New York Times: Trump Backers, Including Elon Musk, Clash With Far Right Over Immigrant Workers and H-1B Visas
Katherine Doyle / NBC News: Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy open rift with MAGA loyalists over skilled worker visas
Malcolm Ferguson / New Republic: Elon Musk's Newest Critics on X Just Paid the Price
Andrew Torba / Gab News: The H-1B Immigration Debate: A Clash of Worlds and Values
Kari Donovan / Stephen K Bannon's War Room: Laura Loomer vs. Tech Elites: A Warning for the Trump Campaign
Brad Reed / Raw Story: ‘Going to blow up in their face’: Laura Loomer warns Trump transition about embracing Musk
The Independent: MAGA backlash as Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy defend visa program for skilled workers: Live updates
Jeff Charles / Townhall: Scott Jennings Has Some Thoughts About Vivek Ramaswamy's Tweet Calling Americans Lazy, Mediocre
Travis Gettys / Raw Story: 'That's one take': CNN host gives ‘side eye’ to GOP strategist's analysis of MAGA clash
Matthew Chapman / Raw Story: ‘Scam by the oligarchs!’ Steve Bannon piles on Elon Musk in MAGA civil war
Atrios / Eschaton: MAGA Meltdown — I am still in a bit of holiday mode, but the abbreviated version …
Ahmad Austin Jr / Mediaite: FLASHBACK: Steve Bannon Labeled Elon Musk a ‘War Profiteer’ Who Would Take a Check ‘From Adolf Hitler Himself’
Lalee Ibssa / ABC News: Musk and Ramaswamy spar with Trump supporters over support for H-1B work visas
Samantha-Jo Roth / Washington Examiner: Trump base splits over Musk and Ramaswamy's support for foreign worker visas
Aimee Picchi / CBS News: Musk and Ramaswamy are sparking a debate over the H-1B visa. Here's what to know about the visa.
Alana Mastrangelo / Breitbart: Elon Musk Brings Back Shadowbanning, Conservatives Report Loss of Verification Following H-1B Fracas
Peter Kafka / Business Insider: Elon Musk has a new role in US politics — and his erratic style is unchanged
David Brooks / New York Times: Why the New Fight Inside MAGA Matters So Much
Alex Wilhelm / Cautious Optimism: The OpenAI corporate revamp seems pretty reasonable
John Cole / Balloon Juice: Clown Fight at the Dipshit Corral
Oliver Willis / Daily Kos: MAGA world is at war after DOGE bros back immigration expansion
Alex Griffing / Mediaite: Laura Loomer Slams Elon Musk to Bannon: ‘We Need to Protect President Trump’
Ted Johnson / Deadline: “That Pretty Much Sums It Up”: Elon Musk Defends H-1B Visas Amid Split Between Trump Tech Bros And MAGA ‘Right Right’
Diana Glebova / New York Post: Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy in fiery spat with MAGA allies over foreign worker visas: ‘Essential for America to keep winning’
Griffin Eckstein / Salon: “Divorce is coming soon”: MAGA civil war erupts after Trump allies accuse Elon Musk of “censorship”
Alison Durkee / Forbes: What Are H-1B Visas? The Immigration Policy Dividing Elon Musk And Trump's Allies Explained
The Post Millennial: ‘America first means the American people first’: Tech industry clashes with MAGA base on H-1B visa debate
Christiaan Hetzner / Fortune: Trump's MAGA base is turning on Elon Musk after he said he wants to import more skilled workers
Malcolm Ferguson / New Republic: Elon Musk's Biggest Fans Turn Against Him Over Immigration
Justin Baragona / The Independent: MAGA civil war ramps up as Trump ally Laura Loomer lays into Elon Musk — and loses her blue check
Tom Boggioni / Raw Story: ‘A horrible decision’: Ramaswamy pounced on by ex-college classmate for ‘culture’ rant
Brad Reed / Raw Story: Elon Musk's X moves to punish Trump ally after she lobs corruption allegations at him
Dave Winer / Scripting News: The problem with everyone who says you have to get off Twitter is that we're giving …
Tomoki Chien / The San Francisco Standard: Tech clashes with far-right MAGA in weird online battle over skilled work visas
Alex Henderson / Alternet.org: ‘Trolling for attention’: MAGA conspiracy theorist ramps up ‘virulent’ attacks on Trump ally
Ben Blanchet / HuffPost: Nikki Haley Rips Vivek Ramaswamy's ‘Mediocrity’ Talk: ‘Nothing Wrong With American Workers’
Paul Ingrassia / The Gateway Pundit: What Elon and Vivek Get Wrong About The H-1B Visa Debate
Charlie Nash / Mediaite: Vivek Ramaswamy Hammered By Right Over Screed Declaring Americans Mediocre: 'One of the Most Offensive Things I've Read'
Griffin Eckstein / Salon: “Dire shortage”: Elon Musk sparks MAGA backlash after calling for more immigrant workers
Bluesky:
Marcello Ruffini / @marcello65: The MAGA Wars, Part 1: Oligarchs v Racists — (wankers, the lot of them) — newrepublic.com/post/189694/ ...
@alpenglowdreams: It's “tech bro billionaires who want an educated but low cost and compliant work force maga” vs “old school christofacist maga” civil war and I'm loving it...hopefully the maga infighting will limit the damage the can do to the rest of us — newrepublic.com/post/189694/ ...
@pcrritesgood: Of course the MAGA billionaires like the H1B visas because it is a sort of indentured servitude and they have a ton of power of those employees. — If you get fired when you have skills you can find a new job, but not if you lose your visa.
Anil Dash / @anildash.com: Twitter today would literally not run if not for workers who are essentially H1B hostages. [embedded post]
Ryan Mac / @rmac: This is the supreme irony of the MAGA schism over H-1Bs. Many workers who stayed at Twitter after Musk's takeover did so because their status in the US was contingent on their employment. They kept a site running that was then used by MAGA folks to question why they were here in the first place. …
Megan E. Zombi / @zombiscribe: I honestly thought that Musk taking over Twitter established how vulnerable H1B workers were. Like I will admit total ignorance before that but we got so many articles about H1B employees being stuck and why while there was a mass exodus
Joe Fabisevich / @mergesort.me: Mmm, I sure don't hate all these people learning firsthand why it was actually hard to run Twitter with every possible faction screaming at you about bias simultaneously. [embedded post]
Nora Benavidez / @attorneynora: Too bad these folks dislike free expression for all. Otherwise I'd say the stripping of their Twitter verification is an anemic corporate bully action motivated by a desire to retaliate against speech Musk doesn't like. #freespeech #firstamendment www.mediaite.com/tech/elon-mu...
Wajahat Ali / @wajali: Glad MAGA voters are hearing what Musk, Vivek, and the elites of the GOP think of them. They've always looked down on Trump voters. They mock them as stupid and ignorant behind their backs. Now Musk is calling them “contemptible fools.” — Well, here's your new master, MAGA. Enjoy.
Mike Masnick / @mmasnick: It's very easy to classify anything you don't like as “spam.” As Elon is doing here. But once you've started down that slope you've already admitted you recognize the need to moderate *some* content. It's just a question of where you draw the borders.
Keith Edwards / @keithedwards: The Musk/MAGA divorce was just as racist, stupid, and entertaining as I thought it would be
Aaron Parnas / @aaronparnas: Many of you have left Twitter, but just a heads up, Elon Musk, Laura Loomer, and MAGA are fighting each other nonstop over there and it is HILARIOUS
Threads:
Judie Balandis Burnette / @burnettejudie: Vivek & Elon are saying what every other Republican employer is about to say in 2025 - deport everyone else's employees, but not mine because I really need them.
X:
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: Just a reminder that the algorithm is trying to maximize unregretted user-seconds. If far more credible, verified subscriber accounts (not bots) mute/block your account compared to those who like your posts, your reach will decline significantly.
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: BREAKING: 🚨🚨🚨 @elonmusk has removed my blue check mark on X because I dared to question his support for H1B visas, the replacement of American tech workers by Indian immigrants, and I questioned his relationship with China. Looks like Elon Musk is going to be silencing me [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: So after @elonmusk took away my verification, I just received an email from X charging me for X @premium even though I can't access Premium because my blue check and subscribers have been taken away. So you ban me from the service and then charge me for it? How is that ethical? [image]
@rpsagainsttrump: Steve Bannon on Elon Musk: This guy lives on government contracts and taxpayer subsidies...You're not even an American, all you are is a globalist. You would take a check from Adolph Hitler. [video]
Scott Adams / @scottadamssays: MAGA is taking a page from Democrats on how to lose elections while feeling good about themselves.
Ryan Grim / @ryangrim: Musk spent the last year juicing this site's algorithm so that super edgy far-right accounts were forced into everyone's feed — and somehow now he is genuinely upset and embarrassed that they are acting like the far right people they are and making things hard for him.
@canteverdie: “adrian dittmann” is elon musks alt account, throughout this he says things like “you are being racist!” and “you're just admitting this?” to these nazis i can't believe he's actually stunned he's cultivated a website and culture and audience of insane reactionary racists lol
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: I mean right after @elonmusk called me a troll today, my account verification was taken away, my subscriptions were deactivated and I was banned from being able to buy premium even though I was already paying for premium. Clearly retaliation.
Alex Jones / @realalexjones: It is a classic American policy to brain drain the best from across the planet and bring them here. Musk has ALWAYS advocated for this policy. Everyone bitching that @elonmusk has flip flopped are either ignorant or lying. Elon to a great extent is the poster child for this
Paul Farhi / @farhip: Striking thing about the Musk/Ramaswamy vs. #MAGA brouhaha: That Trump hasn't said a word either way. A no-win proposition, for sure. But still striking.
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: @ScottAdamsSays The “contemptible fools” I'm referring to are those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists. They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed.
Tom Blomfield / @t_blom: So has Elon basically just rugged MAGA?
@canteverdie: elon musk is retaliating against everyone that went against him in the twitter space, suspending them seemingly trying to get rid of the evidence. the dude is in full on melt down mode lol [image]
@jason: Intolerant lunatics hijacked both parties What we're witnessing is those individuals losing their power The woke lunatics in the Democratic Party look like idiots & the racist members of MAGA have shown their true colors DJT will expunge them This is part of the process
James Ball / @jamesrbuk: It's amazing the amount of stuff that “does not violate” the rules here...except when it happens to Elon when he's cheesed off.
@esjesjesj: He's completely unhinged and personally suspending people who post fake tweets from him, something that happens thousands of times a day [image]
Daniel / @growing_daniel: The weird thing about the h1b debate is nobody in tech seems bothered by it. It's all outsiders supposedly trying to protect the value of labor that doesn't want to be protected
Will Chamberlain / @willchamberlain: Imagine speaking this way about the guy who spent 44 billion on a platform, restored your account, and allowed you to gain a million followers Oh, and the same guy who put the biggest fortune in the world on the line to elect the guy you support Whatever you think about [image]
Sara Mauskopf / @sm: Ok I resisted weighing in to the H-1B visa debate but I can't help myself because the current framing IS SO DUMB and I NEED TO CORRECT THINGS. People are debating whether we should allow highly skilled workers into the U.S. or prioritize hiring American workers only. But this
@aja_cortes: Elon being an immigrant himself is never going to react well to “FUCK IMMIGRANTS” His lifes ambition was to come to the USA and build, which he has more than any Man alive. he made the ultimate Skin in the game bet with the election and now he seeing people he fought for
Deva Hazarika / @devahaz: Kinda crazy these tweets are less than two months apart. We'll see similar changes in tone from some people when “good” immigrants they know get deported. [image]
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: @ScottAdamsSays Yes. And those contemptible fools must be removed from the Republican Party, root and stem.
@buccocapital: His point was that conservatives lack imagination. The older I get the more I find that to be true. Misfortune and hatred make us all kinder, and force us to question our assumptions, when they hit close to home
@buccocapital: A mentor once told me: “The famous saying is that 'If you're not a liberal when you're young you have no heart. And if you're not a conservative when you're older you have no brain.' But really everyone's a conservative till someone they know gets fucked over” [image]
Aaron Levie / @levie: Trump's own stated views on high skilled immigration are very pro tech [video]
Dan Primack / @danprimack: It wasn't hard to predict that there would be a “tech MAGA/traditional MAGA” fissure on immigration. @imkialikethecar from July: https://www.axios.com/...
Matthew Yglesias / @mattyglesias: If a major Dem donor called the American people “retarded,” it would receive extensive coverage in progressive media about how bad and corrupt Democrats are which would fuel mainstream media coverage and it would be a huge deal. Musk does it and conservative media doesn't care. [image]
Matt Bruenig / @mattbruenig: @mattyglesias I do always get a kick out of the conservative pitch to the working class: the libs think you are reactionary bigots while we merely think you are culturally degenerate and stupid
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: You know you're winning the argument when you have to alter the algo, lock accounts, and remove verification badges of the people you're debating lmao
Matt Kim / @freemattkim: EVERYONE!!! don't panic. The removal of verification badges and monetization of dissenting voices to Elon was just a glitch. He's got his top 0.1% Indian engineers working on it!
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: We aren't alienating @elonmusk. We want to have a conversation with him but he limits the convo by deleting our check marks and by calling trolls and subtards. I'd be happy to have a conversation, but he limited my account. That's a bad faith effort at conversation & debate.
Alex Berenson / @alexberenson: So @LauraLoomer is a nutty fabulist. And @elonmusk doesn't have to pay her. Not sharing revenue is not censoring her. But suspending her on a pretext, even temporarily, IS. She didn't dox - the record is public. I hope Elon realizes Laura and her ilk are the price of free speech
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: At risk of starting the obvious, there are many attention-seeking trolls on all social media platforms trying to yank your chain. They win if you respond.
@endwokeness: We can debate and have dialogue but it would be foolish to alienate Elon in the process. Look how that turned out for the left.
Steve / @stevelovesammo: Tell me again how this wasn't a psyop. They're terrified and are trying to fracture this Trump Presidency. Don't let them. [image]
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: Any notion of free speech on this platform is dead as of today. Although it never really existed to begin with. You know where you have “freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach?” Prison.
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: Elon raised $6 billion dollars from Blackrock and other usual suspects last week and now he's on the timeline calling Americans retards, changing the algo, removing checkmarks, and locking people out of their accounts. Curious.
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: Look I get the game and mean no disrespect, but I have never expected the “big influencers” to move to Gab and think they should stay and fight on X for as long as they can. You are of course always welcome and have a refuge when needed! Gab is community funded by our users. I
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: Let the H-1Bs pay for X premium. Americans are too “lazy, unskilled, and subtarded.”
Raheem / @raheemkassam: Bad faith actors with huge legacy accounts mass block/mute those of us who stand up for anything on here. The algorithm rewards tepid, unchallenging, compromise positions.
Michael Seifert / @realmichaelseif: I deleted my tweet about X removing our blue check on the @officialpsq page after I was just told by insiders at X that this is a systems issue and not at all malicious. Hoping it gets resolved quickly.
Andrew Torba / @basedtorba: He's declaring war on us btw. Should go over well for him as it has for everyone else who has tried. [image]
@notpbd: A lot of “Right wing” people are going after Elon Musk, Vivek, and Kash Patel now. Don't do that. You look dumb.
Scott Adams / @scottadamssays: The foreign workers debate on X has been great. We fight. We learn something. We correct course. Trump watches and absorbs. And we did it by entertaining ourselves and getting smarter at the same time. America's Golden Age
Mario Nawfal / @marionawfal: X FOCUSING ON USER SATISFACTION—BLOCKED ACCOUNTS LOSE REACH Elon just revealed X's content strategy—if verified users block you more than they follow you, say goodbye to your reach. The platform's AI now aims to maximize “unregretted user-seconds.” Translation? Being
Robert Scoble / @scobleizer: It is true. This is why my reach is low. Most people don't care about AI and innovation and others decided I am not worth listening to because of my past, or because some billionaire said that I should be shunned. Or because I post too much. The thing is I am here to learn. I
Lyn Alden / @lynaldencontact: Or there could be an algorithm marketplace where users create and/or pick their own algorithms. Nostr has that. Would be cool to have it here too.
Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller: It's almost like a social credit score
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: Elon is creating a new algorithm to deal with the feisty jewess during Hanukkah. Who defines what “far more credible is”? China?
Stephen L. Miller / @redsteeze: Rewarding massive block lists seems like a mistake but like I said he mostly makes this all up as he goes.
Alex Berenson / @alexberenson: No, @elonmusk doesn't have to let you make money off X, subscriptions are optional. Free speech is not. I don't even care if you libel people, that's between you and their lawyers (and 230 protects X). Free speech is what counts - Elon should let you embarrass yourself.
Prof Paul Bernal / @paulbernaluk: In case anyone hasn't realised it until now, Elon Musk has never really been interested in free speech. The test of your commitment to free speech isn't whether you defend your friends' speech, but whether you support that of your enemies.
Kyle Sweetser / @sweetser_kyle: Will Musk end up being the destroyer of MAGA?
Harry Robinson / @harrylotuseater: ‘Free speech is when people agree with me, all else will be silenced.’ That didn't take long.
@plzbepatient: @elonmusk Calling Americans retarded and untrainable and requiring importing entry level engineers from foreign countries is wanting America to lose for their own personal gain.
@plzbepatient: @elonmusk @AutismCapital Ah yes calling us all retarded. Great job Elon. Trump isn't even inaugurated and the base hates you.
@elijahschaffer: They are being so disingenuous w/ their framing of the H1B argument The American people were not against some H1B immigration from Western nations What we are against is mass H1B abuse flooding our nation w/ non westerners for entry level positions that drive down wages
@catturd2: I went to bed early last night and didn't find this out until this morning .... Laura Loomer has been demonetized, her subscriptions taken away, her verification and X premium removed, and was given a 12 hour suspension. She'll be able to tweet again in about 4 hours.
Ashley St. Clair / @stclairashley: You can disagree with Laura Loomer. I do often. You can even (not that I would) justify demonetizing her because “advertisers don't want their content next to her” But to remove her 2500+ subscribers is insane and personal. These are people that were choosing to individually
@cernovich: Multiple accounts that never posted about H-1B are having blue checks removed. Looks like something else, not some retaliation or what others suggested.
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: .@Cernovich is running cover for @elonmusk who just admitted he retaliated against conservative accounts tonight that criticized H1B visas. He said “Yes” when @MarioNawfal said “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” right after several accounts, including mine were targeted. [image]
Shawn Farash / @shawn_farash: Any accounts affiliated w @ConservativeOG lost their blue check because “Conservative OG” no longer is a gold check “verified org” anymore so what happened was: “Conservative OG” affiliate badges no longer showed up on their affiliates' pages. This counts as a change to your
Ashley St. Clair / @stclairashley: It was MAGA who bought 𝕏 premium en masse to keep this platform alive.
Ian Miles Cheong / @stillgray: They were all affiliates of ConservativeOG. The account is apparently having issues with its gold checkmark so everyone affiliated to it lost their affiliate status and thus the blue checkmark was temporarily removed (will be reinstated). This happens when you're removed as an
@bannons_warroom: “After Doing Everything In Their Power To Keep President Trump From Getting Elected The Big Tech Executives Want A Seat At The Table.” @LauraLoomer Warns Of Sinister Agenda From Tech Billionaires [video]
@pastordscott: Actually, @elonmusk didn't “take away” anybody's “free speech”. He just said “I'll be damned if somebody is gonna make money off of MY platform dogging me out”. He didn't “put anyone off” of X, he just stopped PAYING them.
Ron Filipkowski / @ronfilipkowski: Wow, last night the Free Speech Absolutist removed the blue checks, changed the algo to crush their engagement, and removed the ability to get subscriptions, from dozens of big MAGA accounts who criticized him including Loomer. [image]
@punk9059: Seeing Elon get rid of the blue check/payments/subs for people who openly disagree and attack him feels like the opposite of the free speech platform he says he's for. The real test of free speech is how well you deal with people who disagree w you.
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: @ScottAdamsSays Coordinated reply spammers/scammers are out in force. They are getting nuked as we speak.
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: Elon Musk @elonmusk wanting to quell conversation on a platform he owns that thrives off of people having nonstop conversations tells you everything you need to know. 🎯 I rest my case. Signed, Trump loving, America First attention seeking troll ❤️🇺🇸
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: Another way of putting it is that the algorithm is trying to maximize probable long-term user-seconds
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: This is the right position for those who want America to win. For those who want America to lose for their own personal gain, I have no respect. Zero.
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: My 12 hour suspension is now over. For raising concerns and speaking the truth about the technocratic takeover of our country and the White House via influence peddling by billionaire crony technocrats, I have been stripped of my Premium account, blue check, & my subscriptions! [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: I have now also been banned from being able to purchase premium. We are always told to buy premium. But if you criticize immigration you get your premium check taken away and you also get banned from being able to buy Premium. Pure censorship. MAGA has been silenced. [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: How are we having an open debate when people who called out H1B (including me) just had their verifications taken away by X? This is censorship @VivekGRamaswamy Not open debate. @elonmusk has taken away my verified account and canceled all of my subscriptions. “Open debate” [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: After putting me on a 12 hr suspension, removing my blue check mark & banning my subscriptions, @x is now classifying replies from my followers as “spam”. Big tech thinks you're spam if you agree with me on H1B visas & Silicon Valley influence peddling. Why, @elonmusk? [image]
@johnmccloy: Here is @LauraLoomer on Bannon this afternoon saying she is concerned that Democrats may use the perception to create a narrative that big tech is buying influence & enriching themselves. “ I just want to be able to have an open dialogue” [video]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: .@VivekGRamaswamy The technocratic state is more dangerous than the administrative state. Your silence on the censorship of those who wanted to put a limit on the power of big tech is deafening. DOGE can't be allowed to be utilized as a vanity project to enrich Silicon Valley.
Gavin Mario Wax / @gavinwax: Waiting for the Tech Bros to fight for a new law that makes the H1B postings private. They will call it an “algorithm adjustment” to the legislation or something stupid.
@autismcapital: So basically the right split into two factions, tech right and right right, and the tech right is like “hey we need h-1b visa people to do the jobs,” and the right right was like “no you need to hire americans,” and the tech right is like “but you guys are retarded,” and the [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: Very sad to see President Trump's most loyal supporters treated so badly @JDVance. You & Trump have both said we need to end H1B visas. So why is it ok for @elonmusk to ban my premium access & delete my subscriptions as an independent journalist simply because I don't want H1B?
Renata / @rl9631: This is putting President Trump in a terrible spot. @realDonaldTrump What is going on? 👇
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: BREAKING: @elonmusk has now also taken away my character limit so I can't post longer posts. I paid for premium too. He locked my ability to have premium after taking away my blue check tonight. So much for free speech. [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: To those of you getting messages saying that I deactivated my X subscriptions, that's a lie. I didn't. @elonmusk took away my premium account tonight, limited my character limit, & canceled my subscriptions because I spoke out about mass migration. It's retaliatory censorship. [image]
@cb_doge: They freely criticize Elon Musk on his own platform, yet claim there's no free speech here. The irony is unreal.
Ron Filipkowski / @ronfilipkowski: Petty Elon gets his revenge on MAGA critics. [image]
Wint / @dril: what if everyones profile just had two buttons you could click on if you want to either see their posts or not see their posts
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: Sad to see. @elonmusk is now referring to MAGA as “contemptible fools”. DEPLORABLES LISTLESS VESSELS GARBAGE AND NOW.... CONTEMPTIBLE FOOLS The Trump base is being replaced by Big Tech executives. So sad to see this. @realDonaldTrump I feel so sad for MAGA.
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: Full censorship of my account simply because I called out H1B visas. This is anti-American behavior by tech oligarchs. What happened to free speech?
Adam Kinzinger / @adamkinzinger: So @elonmusk stripped the blue check because someone hurt his feelings? Dude lay off the ketamine, talk to a therapist, help the poor, retire, talk to your kids, and grow up. He going to keep strangling this place. If you love him great, but don't pretend he's for free speech
Pekka Kallioniemi / @p_kallioniemi: Elon Musk appears to have removed the gold badge from @ConservativeOG following a disagreement about H-1B visas. As a result, their affiliated influencers have also lost verification and subscribers. Is this the ‘free speech’ Elon promised us? [image]
Laura Loomer / @lauraloomer: I have been more loyal to President Trump and his agenda than ANYONE. And I have only been punished for it. Pay attention MAGA. This is how you will all be treated now that Big Tech has infiltrated MAGA. “President Musk” is starting to look real. He doesn't want me to
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene / @repmtg: Good gracious, I came out of Christmas bliss to see arguments about American labor vs H1-B imported labor and MAGA split over this issue. Good, that means everyone is engaged in saving this country. Here is some tough reality for some of you: There are some big MAGA voices
Gavin Mario Wax / @gavinwax: My verification badge is now under review. Weird! Didn't change anything.
@conservativeog: All of our influencers have now lost verification status, as well as our own page. Our brand did nothing. We spoke out against HB1 visas and it appears that @elonmusk intentionally shut us down? Is this the new status quo from America's “most free” social media platform? [image]
Antonio García Martínez / @antoniogm: As a meta-comment, it's fascinating to see this debate play out live, in the gladiatorial arena, with near-zero meddling from the content moderation people or the mainstream media. The national agora at internet scale is here. Everything else is a sideshow.
Preston Parra / @theprestonparra: Woah, @elonmusk just stripped our entire organization of badges and verified org status. I guess this is what you get when you hand the keys over to an autistic, power-hungry, self-aggrandizing traitor to his country. Very pathetic, X sucks! [image]
Owen Shroyer / @owenshroyer1776: I just lost my verification...was told my account is “under review”. Anyone know what's going on?
Mario Nawfal / @marionawfal: Translation: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Elon Musk / @elonmusk: That said, any accounts found to be engaged in coordinated attacks to spam target accounts with mute/blocks will themselves be categorized - correctly - as spam. Live by the spam, die by the spam.
Gavin Mario Wax / @gavinwax: Insane that blue checks are being removed from accounts that have been vocal in their criticism of the H1B racket. Horrible look. I've supported Elon and X. Anyone who was at the @NYYRC gala can attest that I dedicated a large portion of my speech to praising Elon. Sad!
Forums:
r/themayormccheese: Steve Bannon Joins War Against Elon Musk as MAGA Implodes | Donald Trump's biggest fans are at each other's throats over immigration, and H-1B visas in particular.
| Greg Stohr / Bloomberg: |
Filing: Trump asks SCOTUS to pause the law that could ban TikTok, saying the court should give him time to “pursue a political resolution” of the dispute — - Biden administration says Chinese control of app is threat — TikTok says law infringes rights of 170 million Americans
Bluesky: @dcote5, @mjsdc, @mjsdc, @mikeisaac, @bobbyallyn, @carnage4life, @chrisgeidner, @jeremyz, @zachsdorfman, @jameeljaffer, and @mmasnick. Mastodon: @carnage4life@mas.to
Threads: @mgsiegler and @mgsiegler
X: @danprimack, @jeffjarvis, @michaelsobolik, @jimsciutto, @markwarner, @adamkovac, @anupamchander, @anupamchander, @anupamchander, @mikesacksesq, @kaitlancollins, @repmtg, @tysonbrody, @derektmuller, @rushdoshi, @alexeheath, @pitdesi, @luke_metro, @mikeisaac, @scottadamssays, @alaynatreene, @matthewstoller, @stokel, @jacobhuebert, @dnlbrns, @anupamchander, @stevesosnick, @jamesrbuk, @jamesrbuk, @jamesrbuk, @luke_metro, @sonalibasak, @rmfifthcircuit, and @yashar
More:
David G. Savage / Los Angeles Times: Can Trump persuade the Supreme Court to stand aside so he can solve the TikTok problem?
John Fritze / CNN: Trump asks Supreme Court to pause TikTok ban, while Biden admin says app poses ‘grave’ threat
Filip Timotija / The Hill: Massachusetts Democrat suggests Trump's TikTok support stems from his popularity on the app
Deborah Dan-Awoh / Nairametrics: Trump asks Supreme Court to delay Jan 19 TikTok ban deadline
Matt Binder / Mashable: Trump tells SCOTUS that only he can save TikTok from ban
Deepak Puri / The Democracy Labs: Trump flip flops on TikTok ban after meeting billionaire donor: Follow The Money
Zachary Leeman / Mediaite: Trump Urges Supreme Court To Pause TikTok Ban As Biden Issues Warning About ‘National Security’ Risks
Adam Liptak / New York Times: Trump Urges Supreme Court to Pause TikTok Ban
Abdullah Mustapha / Gizchina.com: Trump Seeks to Delay TikTok Ban, Pushes for Negotiation
Laura Molloy / NME: Donald Trump asks US Supreme Court to delay TikTok ban
Cassandra MacDonald / The Gateway Pundit: Trump Asks Supreme Court to Delay TikTok Ban Scheduled to Take Effect on January 19
Sagar Naresh Bhavsar / Neowin: TikTok may have a gleam of hope to remain operational in the US, thanks to Donald Trump
Ian Hanchett / Breitbart: Dem Rep. Auchincloss: Trump Understood CCP Control of TikTok Is Dangerous, Now He's Throwing Away Leverage
Andrew Hutchinson / Social Media Today: Trump Files Supreme Court Bid to Save TikTok
Jacob Gershman / Wall Street Journal: Trump Asks Supreme Court to Pause TikTok Shutdown
Josh Christenson / New York Post: Trump asks Supreme Court to halt TikTok ban from taking effect
Winston Cho / The Hollywood Reporter: Trump Moves to Pause TikTok Ban Law in Filing Signaling Support for Platform
Bluesky:
David C / @dcote5: It's a law passed by Congress lol. If Congress wants to pause it, let them, don't see how scotus has anything to do with anything unless the law is unconstitutional which it isnt
Mark Joseph Stern / @mjsdc: A brand new principle of constitutional law, unfolding before our eyes: It is unconstitutional (!) for Congress to enact a law that happens to take effect one day before the next president is inaugurated, at least if he's named Trump. www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ 24... [image]
Mark Joseph Stern / @mjsdc: Trump's TikTok brief just fundamentally doesn't make sense: How could SCOTUS freeze the Jan. 19 deadline on the grounds that Trump might ... unlawfully suspend it when he gets into office? Rewrite the law now so Trump can break it later? The ask here is incoherent. www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ 24... …
Rat King / @mikeisaac: well at least all the lawyers got three years of billable hours — www.nytimes.com/2024/12/27/u... [image]
Bobby Allyn / @bobbyallyn: I called up @stevevladeck.bsky.social for reflections on Trump's TikTok brief: — “What's stunning about it is it cites no legal authority and acts as if he's already president,” he said. “It's a nakedly political law-free brief.”
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: Donald Trump filed an amicus brief urging the Supreme Court to block a TikTok ban as he pursues a political resolution. — As Truth Social's founder, he warns of the dangers of government censorship of social media. — The Biden administration has handed an early win to Trump. [image]
Chris Geidner / @chrisgeidner: The Trump amicus brief in the TikTok case is wild, not the least of which is because it explicitly is premised on “I'll be president soon” and because the brief — full of puffery (at best) — is authored by his choice for solicitor general, D. John Sauer. www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ 24... [images]
@jeremyz: the democrats handing saving tiktok to trump is one of the more embarrassing unforced errors of the biden regime. [embedded post]
Zach Dorfman / @zachsdorfman: It's funny; I remember passionate arguments by Trump 1.0 admin officials that TikTok was a major threat to national security, and how secret intelligence—which could not be shared with the public—proved their case even more damningly. [embedded post]
Jameel Jaffer / @jameeljaffer: The brief that Trump just filed in the TikTok case is worth reading. It will certainly get read by the Justices. www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ 24... [image]
Mike Masnick / @mmasnick: Trump asks SCOTUS to delay the effective date of the TikTok ban because he's “one of the most powerful, prolific, and influential users of social media in history” and also he “possesses the consummate dealmaking expertise...& political will to negotiate a resolution to save the platform”
Mastodon:
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life@mas.to: Donald Trump has filed an amicus brief asking the Supreme Court to pause the law that would ban TikTok while he seeks a political solution. — He also mentions that as the founder of Truth Social, he finds concerning that the government can ban a social media app. — The Biden admin has handed Trump a win out of the gate. …
Threads:
M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler: I can't believe it's only Day Negative 23 of the new Trump administration.
M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler: Checks (books) and (bank) balances.
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Dan Primack / @danprimack: Flashback: [image]
@jeffjarvis: The Trump TikTok brief is a laughable and pornographic exercise in imperial fluffing. The emperor has no clothes < The president has no ego. (But I want TikTok to stay.) https://www.supremecourt.gov/ ... [image]
Michael Sobolik / @michaelsobolik: Notable, primarily for the following reason: up until today, Trump had walked a fine line between advocating for TikTok, while also avoiding outright opposition to the law. Today, he came out against the statute.
Jim Sciutto / @jimsciutto: So last night I'm told on the air that China is such a threat Trump may take back the Panama Canal and tonight Trump says that TikTok - which bipartisan legislation and the intel community deem a threat - doesn't need to be banned. What explains the contradiction?
Mark Warner / @markwarner: Interesting turn of events: Trump called TikTok a national security risk, but now he's asking for a stay on a congressionally-passed ban. 🤔
Adam Kovacevich / @adamkovac: Despite the breathless reporting on Trump's brief, it feels utterly irrelevant. SCOTUS already bypassed the opportunity to enjoin the TikTok law past 1/19, and it is very likely to uphold the DC Circuit's ruling. This brief is political payback for TT, not a real strategy.
Anupam Chander / @anupamchander: 3. We would never say that if we shutter a newspaper, you can simply buy a different one. We shouldn't say that you can simply move to Reels or YouTube, either. 3/ [image]
Anupam Chander / @anupamchander: Some quotes from our First Amendment and Internet Law Professor's TikTok amicus: 1. The Act amounts to a massive suppression of speech—literally losing huge amounts of speech posted by users, or their curated libraries of speech. [image]
Anupam Chander / @anupamchander: 2. The global exchange of ideas would be imperiled by either a divestiture or a ban. [image]
Mike Sacks / @mikesacksesq: Trump's incoming Solicitor General asking SCOTUS to milk his win in the immunity case to make more Law of Trump https://www.supremecourt.gov/ ... [image]
Kaitlan Collins / @kaitlancollins: News — I'm told Trump spoke with TikTok CEO Shou Chew tonight after the incoming president asked the Supreme Court to pause a ban on TikTok set to go into effect the day before he takes office. The two men met in person at Mar-a-Lago about two weeks ago. https://www.cnn.com/...
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene / @repmtg: I'm proud to have voted against the Tik Tok ban bill. Free Speech must be protected and there are smarter ways to reign in China. President Trump is starting that process.
Tyson Brody / @tysonbrody: the question is whether they sell to elon or ellison
Derek T. Muller / @derektmuller: The notion that some private citizen is asking the Court to suspend the deadline set by Congress in a statute is absurd. You take office January 20. Sorry if things happen January 19 you don't like.
Rush Doshi / @rushdoshi: Getting harder to argue that Trump 2.0 will get China right if the opening play is to let TikTok operate as usual. Maybe there will be a real debate on this and the new team ends up where Biden and bipartisan Congressional majorities did. Or maybe not... [image]
Sheel Mohnot / @pitdesi: Trump wanted a ban of TikTok in 2020. Jeffrey Yass, whose Susquehanna fund owns 15% of the company, donated $96M to R's this election cycle Unsurprisingly, Trump now opposes the ban. [image]
Rat King / @mikeisaac: filing injunctive relief for the Supreme Court to recognize me as a born poster [image]
Alayna Treene / @alaynatreene: The pause would allow his admin “to pursue a negotiated resolution that could prevent a nationwide shutdown of TikTok, thus preserving the First Amendment rights of tens of millions of Americans, while also addressing the government's national security concerns” Trump wrote
Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller: I like how Trump treats the Supreme Court like they work for him. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Chris Stokel-Walker / @stokel: This is a wild switch given four years ago Trump was campaigning to ban TikTok
Jacob Huebert / @jacobhuebert: Although Trump's brief says it's “in support of neither party,” he makes clear that he opposed the TikTok ban and still does: [image]
Daniel Barnes / @dnlbrns: Trump says he alone can save TikTok from being banned in the US and urges SCOTUS to issue a stay to give him time to negotiate a deal. Doesn't get into specifics, but overturning the ban law could require action from Congress. Brief: https://www.supremecourt.gov/ ... [image]
Anupam Chander / @anupamchander: Incoming President Trump filed an amicus in the TikTok case seeking a delay in the operation of the law to give him time to resolve the matter, utilizing his “consummate dealmaking expertise”! https://www.supremecourt.gov/ ...
Steve Sosnick / @stevesosnick: @sonalibasak Jeff Yass getting something for his ~$100mm in political contributions https://washingtonpost.com/......
James Ball / @jamesrbuk: The US controls every other major platform, and US intelligence exploits that advantage globally - Snowden's NSA revelations showed that. Is the US unwilling to put up with even one platform it doesn't run, as it asks every other country to put up with controlling none?
James Ball / @jamesrbuk: Honestly, I think Trump has presented a good challenge to US securocrats on TikTok here. If TikTok is doing something so different and so dangerous, why not declassify the evidence and get it banned? Instead of keeping it secret and risking the whole thing.
James Ball / @jamesrbuk: The way it escapes looking hypocritical is claiming it has classified material that shows TikTok is way worse than everyone else. But if it wants the world to believe that - if it wants Americans to believe that - show us the receipts.
Sonali Basak / @sonalibasak: *TRUMP URGES SUPREME COURT TO PAUSE LAW THREATENING TIKTOK BAN This comes HOURS after Biden's Justice Department filed its main brief to the Supreme Court on the TikTok ban and the company filed its counter. Unless blocked, the law would take effect on Jan. 19
Raffi Melkonian / @rmfifthcircuit: Heh. An amicus brief from the president elect from the solicitor general elect(?) designate(?)
Yashar Ali / @yashar: NEWS President-elect Trump has filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in the TikTok matter. He has asked the court to issue a stay. If the court doesn't issue a stay and TikTok's parent company fails to find a buyer, TikTok will be banned in the United States starting on January 19.
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Dan Frieth / Reclaim The Net: Donald Trump Urges Supreme Court to Delay TikTok Ban Amid First Amendment Concerns
Will McCurdy / PCMag: Trump Urges Supreme Court To Pause TikTok Ban
Tyler Durden / ZeroHedge News: Trump Asks Supreme Court To Pause TikTok Ban So He Can Negotiate Resolution
Katie Herchenroeder / Vanity Fair: Donald Trump Urges Supreme Court To Pause TikTok Ban Decision Until After Inauguration
Fox News: State attorneys general ask SCOTUS to uphold TikTok divest-or-ban law amid Trump request to pause ban
NBC News: Trump urges Supreme Court to hit pause on a law that could ban TikTok in the U.S. next month
Chris Geidner / Law Dork: DOJ's SCOTUS defense of law that could ban TikTok faces challenge from Trump
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Evan Greer / @evangreer: I'm proud the first SCOTUS amicus @fightforthefuture.org has ever filed is opposing the blatantly unconstitutional & authoritarian attempt to ban TikTok, an app that millions of people use to express themselves. Big thanks to our friends at ACLU who did heavy lifting here variety.com/2024/digital...
Marty Lederman / @martylederman: In order to get any of the Justices to be at all sympathetic to its claim, TikTok will have to persuade them, at a minimum, that there'd be a significant harm to users if TikTok disappears. That might be difficult, b/c the Justices might simply assume ... [8]
Marty Lederman / @martylederman: I'm only discussing its constitutionality. — For those of you who haven't been following, the law doesn't *ban* TikTok—instead, it'll prohibit “app stores” and the like from offering it or servicing it after 01/19 *if* (and only if) there isn't a divestment of TikTok from PRC ownership by then. …
Marty Lederman / @martylederman: While waiting for other briefs, I'll interlineate a few thoughts and things to look for. FWIW, I think it's highly likely the SCOTUS will uphold the law. My posts here will reflect some of the reasons why I think so. I don't have any strong views on whether the law was wise. [5]
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Ryan Calo / @rcalo: Lots of people contributed but counsel @WillkieFarr and profs @AnupamChander @dispositive and Ash Bhagwat took the lead. (Correct me if I'm leaving folks out!) Thanks for the opportunity to work on this important intervention.
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A look at Google's pressure-filled 2024 under Sundar Pichai, notching some AI wins with new Gemini models and navigating product mishaps, layoffs, and more — Google's blowout earnings report in April, which sparked the biggest rally in Alphabet shares since 2015 and pushed …
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Jennifer Elias / CNBC: Google CEO Pichai tells employees to gear up for big 2025: ‘The stakes are high’
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@om.co: If you use Gemini and its dashboard (for lack of a better word) and compare it with the relative ease of use of ChatGPT and Claude, you can see the challenge right there. It is a messy, big company that doesn't have a way to share a simple, easy message about the future, and how it can win it. …
Brij Singh / @brijsingh: Google engineers are mostly complexifiers. The absence of any mention of Perplexity competitor “Gemini Deep Research” feature in this article is telling - it highlights how Google's increasing complexity is diluting its gtm and UX [embedded post]
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: Google fears OpenAI is becoming as synonymous with AI as Google is with search. I see the brand battle as already lost for Gemini vs ChatGPT. — I see room for other wins; Google could integrate AI features into search making ChatGPT irrelevant and beat OpenAI in other areas like Veo outpacing Sora.
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Glenn Gabe / @glenngabe@mas.to: “Scaling Gemini on the consumer side will be our biggest focus next year,” Pichai added -> Google CEO Pichai tells employees to gear up for big 2025: ‘The stakes are high’ — “Pichai turned to DeepMind co-founder Demis Hassabis, who said that teams are going to “turbo charge” the Gemini app...” …
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life@mas.to: Google is worried ChatGPT is becoming as synonymous with AI as Google became with search. I think the horse has already left the barn when it comes to Gemini being as big a brand as ChatGPT when it comes to chatbots. — I think there's room to both win on scenarios (e.g. Google Search does all the things ChatGPT does) and in other verticals (e.g. Veo beats Sora). …
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Andrew Curran / @andrewcurran_: During the meeting Sir Demis said that the plan is for Gemini to evolve into a universal assistant that can ‘operate over any domain, any modality, or any device.’ He also said there are no plans for a $200 tier subscription, so their aim is to outperform and undercut Pro. [image]
Jennifer E. / @jenn_elias: Some employees say they've felt empathy for what they consider a tough position for Pichai overseeing a complex corporation. They acknowledge a key quandary remains: move too early and risk widespread criticism; move too late and risk missing the boat. https://www.cnbc.com/...
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Analysis: 50%+ of the US households showing highly-distorted power readings from February to October were within 20 miles of significant data center activity — AI data centers are multiplying across the US and sucking up huge amounts of power. New evidence shows they may also be distorting …
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@climatax.org: AI data centers sucks up much of the added renewables and put considerable strain on the grids. — Who should pay for the necessary grid expansion - households or the AI data center owners? — #energysky #greensky #climatesky — www.bloomberg.com/graphics/202...
@om.co: That explains a lot. I am writing a mile of data center alley in San Francisco. I bet everyone is feeling “higher” bills in SF.
Cynthia Brumfield / @metacurity.com: Wow. AI is making the power grid malfunction a little bit? [embedded post]
Ketan Joshi / @ketanjoshi.co: Just an incredibly clever Bloomberg analysis here: they compared harmonic distortion (dodgy power supply that breaks your appliances badly, or causes fires + blackouts) to the centres of uncontrolled, unplanned data centre expansionism and found a clear link —>> — www.bloomberg.com/graphics/202... …
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Miguel Afonso Caetano / @remixtures@tldr.nettime.org: “AI data centers are multiplying across the US and sucking up huge amounts of power. New evidence shows they may also be distorting the normal flow of electricity for millions of Americans. This map shows readings from about 770,000 home sensors, with red zones indicating areas with the most distorted power. …
Russ Garrett / @russss@chaos.social: This thing is sufficiently close to a population density map that I'm sceptical that it's showing what they claim it is. — Bloomberg doesn't seem to have found anyone independent to comment on the core claim of this article. — https://www.bloomberg.com/... [image]
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Stuart Loren / @stuloren: Bloomberg feature on power distortions tied to data centers. For energy folks, this isn't surprising. Power demand is rising fast, but capex in new generation and grid enhancements isn't keeping pace. Especially in ComEd market since IL restricts new gas gen and nuclear >300 MW. [image]
Varun Krishnan / @varunkrish: Americans are discovering voltage fluctuations!😅
Leonardo / @leonardonclt: 🚨NEW INVESTIGATION🚨 @naurtorious @andretartar and I analyzed exclusive data from ~770K sensors and found a strong link between proximity to AI data centers and higher levels of distorted power, which can damage home appliances and aging grids. 🎁: https://www.bloomberg.com/... [video]
Shanu Mathew / @shanumathew93: “An exclusive Bloomberg analysis shows that more than three-quarters of highly-distorted power readings across the country are within 50 miles of significant data center activity. While many facilities are popping up near major US cities and adding stress to already fragile [image]
Paris Marx / @parismarx: Data centers are having serious effects on the US grid, with 3/4s of highly distorted power readings occurring within 50 miles of significant data center activity. That threatens home appliances and aging energy infrastructure, and increases fire risks. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Leonardo / @leonardonclt: AI data centers are multiplying across the US and sucking up huge amounts of power. Our analysis shows they may also be distorting the normal flow of electricity for millions of Americans. Map: readings from ~770K home sensors. Red zones: areas with the most distorted power. [image]
Leonardo / @leonardonclt: We visualized granular data for sensors within two Virginia communities: one located far from data center activity and recording “normal” power distortions, the other located within 7 miles from significant data center activity and recording alarming double digit readings. [video]
Shanu Mathew / @shanumathew93: “Some of the biggest data-center clusters are near big cities, so that the facilities can tap into larger grids and the fiber networks that are often located close to consumers for latency issues. That underscores why harmonics are often worse in urban areas. But while the effect [image]
@business: A Bloomberg investigation reveals a strong link between proximity to AI data centers and higher levels of distorted power, which can damage home appliances and aging grid equipment. Read The Big Take ⬇️ https://www.bloomberg.com/...
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Finland, Canada, the US, and other countries are testing tech for passport-free travel, including facial recognition and a “digital travel credential” — Smartphones and face recognition are being combined to create new digital travel documents. The paper passport's days are numbered—despite new privacy risks.
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AT&T says China targeted a few “individuals of foreign intelligence interest” in the Salt Typhoon hack and its networks are now clear from the intrusion — - Carriers said hackers targeted political, intelligence figures — White House said nine telecom companies were victims| Bloomberg: |
RWA.xyz estimates the total value of tokenized real-world assets, excluding stablecoins, is $13B, as Opimas says just 0.003% of global asset value is tokenized — - ‘It may even be bigger than the internet,’ proponent says — BlackRock, Trump's election win have re-energized effortsMore:
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Analysis: mentions of deepfakes or AI-made content in X's Community Notes were more correlated with new image generation model releases than elections in 2024 — The panic over AGI disinformation in this year's political cycle seems to have been overblown — Around this time last year … Mastodon:
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What to expect in 2025: increased hype around AI agents, new generative AI-powered gadgets, better weather forecasts due to Google DeepMind's GenCast, and more — Weather forecasts will get smarter, EVs could get pricier, crypto will be for everyday investors and AI will be everywhere| Callum Booth / The Verge: |
A look at the EU's common charging regulations, which come into force on Dec. 28 and cover USB-C ports, fast charging, unbundling of charging bricks, and more — The common charging standard brings USB PD support, improved labelling, and less e-waste.
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David Phelan / Forbes: Apple Cancels iPhone 14 And iPhone SE For Millions Of Users
Rounak Jain / Benzinga: Apple Halts iPhone 14, iPhone SE Sales In EU: Here's Why
Omar Sohail / Wccftech: Apple Stops Selling The iPhone 14 And The iPhone SE In Several EU Countries As The Local Legislation Requires All Companies To Sell Devices With A USB-C Port Only
Filipe Espósito / 9to5Mac: iPhone 14 and iPhone SE no longer available in most EU countries
Christian Zibreg / How-To Geek: Apple Halts iPhone SE Sales in the EU
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Thomas / @distributionat: deepseek-v3 thinks it is chatgpt 10/10 times. surprising, because most models think they are the newest model. [image]
Lucas Beyer / @giffmana: This actually reproduces as of today. In 5 out of 8 generations, DeepSeekV3 claims to be ChatGPT (v4), while claiming to be DeepSeekV3 only 3 times. Gives you a rough idea of some of their training data distribution. [image]
Lucas Beyer / @giffmana: It's not too hard to probe a model and deduce how the various parts of its training were done. Once you know that, making it behave a certain way (eg bypass its safety tuning) can be relatively easily: [image]
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Ethan Mollick / @emollick: It is interesting the degree to which OpenAI is responsible for making its competitors possible: 1) They launched the first public big LLM, showing they are powerful 2) Many models trained on GPT data👇 3) Showed off a lot of easily copied ideas (eg test-time compute is key)
Sam Altman / @sama: it is (relatively) easy to copy something that you know works. it is extremely hard to do something new, risky, and difficult when you don't know if it will work. individual researchers rightly get a lot of glory for that when they do it! it's the coolest thing in the world.
Riley Goodside / @goodside: If DeepSeek-V3 is good because it trained on ChatGPT (which of course it did), why isn't Grok amazing? Why isn't *every* model amazing? Why spend 95% of compute pre-training a new model (which equals 405B on Pile-test btw) if the secret sauce is ~fOrBiDdEn~DaTa~ in the last 5%?
Arun Nagarajan / @entaq: 2+ years into the LLM era, I still can't explain how these things work. Here DeepSeek pretends to be GPT-4 🙄 [image]
Anton / @abacaj: It's funny that SOTA models like deepseek will gladly output they are trained by OAI (1.5 years after gpt-4) but maybe not so funny... how hard could it be to steer the model in post training to not admit it is trained by OAI/GPT-4? It's obvious the model will output this when [image]
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@levelsio: Another founder kicked out by their VCs You never hear this so common story because people are tied by NDAs or scared to get sued Know that when you raise money you give up full control, important to choose well who you give that full control to
Lulu Cheng Meservey / @lulumeservey: “Dear Bench customer, we regret to inform you that we will be shutting down Bench services.” Weapons-grade corpo speak Totally soulless managerial pablum Surest sign the founder is no longer there [image]
Ana Mostarac / @anammostarac: It's far easier for a founding CEO to learn leadership than for a hired CEO to develop a founder mindset. Important lesson from the ousted founder of Bench, which just abruptly shut down. Bench raised more than $100m in venture funding, and at one point employed more than 650
@kepano: The accounting tool @Bench shut down with no warning 3 days before the end of the year. They had raised $110m in venture capital. The app is no longer accessible. There will be a way to export your data, but it's not available yet. File over app is not just for individuals. [image]
Kaz Nejatian / @canadakaz: Bad investors destroyed a great Canadian company by replacing the founder with so-called professionals.
Bryce Roberts / @bryce: When I say indie isn't about fundraising this is exactly what I mean. The right partners are a super power. The wrong partners are a death sentence to your ability to operate independently.
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 4/8 I had been battling with some of the board members over strategy. They wanted me to take the company in a new direction that I thought was a very bad idea. I wanted to continue with what was working and with what our partners had signed on to distribute. I was intransigent.
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 2/8 In November 2021 I went out for what I thought would be a regular lunch with one of my board members. We had just raised a Series C and turned down a highly lucrative acquisition offer. We had budding partnerships with companies like Shopify that were interested in the
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 3/8 The board member thanked me for bringing the company to this point, but that they would be hiring a new professional CEO to “take the company to the next level.”
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 7/8 So I moved on. I started off fresh and built a new company (Teal). Earlier this year we successfully exited to Mercury. Things are going well and I'm excited for what we're up to.
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 8/8 I hope the story of Bench goes on to become a warning for VCs that think they can “upgrade” a company by replacing the founder. It never works.
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 6/8 I reasoned that if they were right and I'm just a wrong-headed founder who won't listen, then I should just fully get out of the way so they can see their vision through. And on a personal level, I just didn't think I could stand to watch them dismantle the company I had
Ian Crosby / @ianwcrosby: @Bench 5/8 Rather than continuing to fight with me, they opted just to just replace me, thinking that they could run the company better themselves. I was totally convinced that their approach would destroy the company. I opted to resign rather than fight. Because on the off-chance that
Jason Bosco / @jasonbosco: Bench Accounting. 500 employees, Series C, $109M in VC funding, 14 year-old company. NONE OF THAT MATTERS. Company just shut down, because VCs were propping them up and they weren't profitable. If raising X00 Million in VC funding is in your criteria when evaluating vendors,
Andrew Rea / @andrew__rea: .@Bench accounting is dead. Lots of startups, e-comm brands, and SMBs that will need help transitioning providers in the days and weeks ahead. Bench failing is not that shocking of a development for anyone who's been in the industry or a client of Bench's in the past though. [image]
Patrick McKenzie / @patio11: Oof. [image]
Jinesh Shah / @jineshshah36: @kepano @Bench We were once bench customers, and I completely see why they shutdown. Accounting, for all but the smallest companies, is complicated. Bench's bookkeeping process was designed to be cookie cutter. We could barely get direct access to any humans at the company. Now we pay a farely
Ayman Al-Abdullah / @aymanalabdul: Business is tough, but @Bench CEO has ZERO excuse for not giving employees, customers, and stakeholders advance warning and a proper transition plan Neglecting this isn't just a mistake—it's reputation-ending Leadership means accountability
Rohit Mittal / @rohitdotmittal: Does anyone know how to go about buying Bench's assets? I'm sure investors have counsel to sell the assets and get back whatever they can. It's an opportunity to raise a few million, buy all the assets, brand name, and the rest and run the thing profitably. If you think you
Natasha Mascarenhas / @nmasc_: Bench shut down is a big deal - especially this time of the year. Watching customers and employees melt down all over my LinkedIn/X feed https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
Brandon Hall / @bhallcpa: Another unfortunate example of outsiders thinking you can fully automate accounting. Bench, and those similar, have an unscalable model. Why? To have a large enough TAM and attract VC investments, they must charge rock bottom prices. Otherwise they become unaffordable to many [image]
Andrew Rea / @andrew__rea: It's about to be a bloodbath on Twitter/LinkedIn + email inboxes today as every accounting firm and accounting tech startup goes after the @Bench client base. [image]
Tommy Griffith / @tommygriffith: It looks like @Bench is shutting down, with 3 business days left in the year, right before tax season. Does anyone know what happened? [image]
Anand Sanwal / @asanwal: 13-year old accounting software @bench shuts down abruptly 3 days before year-end If you're a customer, ouch! Raised $104M w/the last round being $60M in 2021 A zero value here is wild Would figure the customer base, software would be worth something? But guess not [image]
LinkedIn:
Pratheesh Chambeth: I just came across some shocking news: Bench, a prominent Canada-based accounting SaaS provider, abruptly shut down, leaving thousands of businesses scrambling to access their financial records. …
David Morgantini: Almost 4 years ago I joined the Bench EPD team. Over the past 4 years, the team has grown and changed, making it virtually unrecognizable from the team I joined. …
Greg O'Brien / Greg O'Brien, CPA: Wow! Bench, an original cloud accounting provider who tried to scale low cost bookkeeping has abruptly closed its doors. …
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X: @vxunderground, @jaimeblascob, @tuckner, @tomhegel, @mattjay, @swiftonsecurity, @swiftonsecurity, @swiftonsecurity, @swiftonsecurity, @swiftonsecurity, @cstanley, @jaimeblascob, @jaimeblascob, and @jaimeblascob
LinkedIn: Vivek Ramachandran and Or Eshed
Forums: r/technology and Slashdot
More:
Bluesky:
Cynthia Brumfield / @metacurity.com: Clearly, the cybersecurity world did not get the memo that the days between Christmas and New Year's is a no-news zone. [embedded post]
Zack Whittaker / @zackwhittaker: New, w/ @lorenzofb.bsky.social: Data-loss prevention startup Cyberhaven was hacked to publish a malicious update to its Chrome extension, affecting potentially thousands of users. A security researcher says other big Chrome extensions were hacked in the same campaign. — techcrunch.com/2024/12/27/c...
Matt Johansen / @mattjay.com: An attacker successfully phished a Cyberhaven employee. — They gained access to their Chrome Web Store admin credentials and published a malicious version of the Cyberhaven extension. — Read my full writeup here: — www.vulnu.com/p/breaking-c... Thanks @jaimeblascob.bsky.social and @johntuckner.me
Mastodon:
Miguel Afonso Caetano / @remixtures@tldr.nettime.org: “Hackers have compromised several different companies' Chrome browser extensions in a series of intrusions dating back to mid-December, according to one of the victims and experts who have examined the campaign. — Among the victims was the California-based Cyberhaven, a data protection company that confirmed the breach in a statement to Reuters on Friday. …
Alberg / @alberg@infosec.exchange: Browser extensions are an often forgotten attack surface - given their access to whats going on in the browser session, installing malicious extensions or subverting legitimate extensions gives an attacker the ability to do all sorts of bad things. Do your homework before installing extensions... https://www.reuters.com/...
X:
@vxunderground: Cyberhaven, a thing we've never heard about before until about 2 minutes ago, that does something with cybersecurity and lists it's biggest customers on it's website, was compromised. It resulted in a web-browser-based supply chain attack. [image]
Jaime Blasco / @jaimeblascob: Regarding the Cyberhaven chrome extension compromise I have reasons to believe there are other extensions affected. Pivoting by the ip address there are more domains created within the same time range resolving to the same ip address as cyberhavenext[.]pro (cont)
@tuckner: Been notified of some additional chrome extensions with similar code to Cyberhaven. ParrotTalks抄.記 (kkodiihpgodmdankclfibbiphjkfdenh) on the left and Cyberhaven on the right. ParrotTalks was updated yesterday (1.6.2) and also introduced the content script pictured. [image]
Tom Hegel / @tomhegel: Jaime flagging popular extensions here. My findings/thoughts: - 15ish fresh (this week) domains, each w/ their own extension tie-in. - Links back to early 2024 extensions, similar abuse, but focused on ad-blocking, AI, youtube, extensions. - VIBESINT = opportunistic scam. 🧵...
Matt Johansen / @mattjay: An attacker successfully phished a Cyberhaven employee. They gained access to their Chrome Web Store admin credentials and published a malicious version of the Cyberhaven extension. [image]
@swiftonsecurity: Credentials: I have for years decried Google's governance of their extension ecosystem. I have caused two different news cycles about it. Extension compromise is an insane issue because it lets you bypass MFA. This has to be addressed.
@swiftonsecurity: The thing about Chrome extensions manifest V3 is it actually is desperately needed, it's unfortunate some forces possibly used it to limit adblocking on the side. However it will still mostly work I am not concerned.
@swiftonsecurity: Note when I say I'm not concerned I mean regarding efficacy of preventing most traditional malvertising against corporate users. About ability to stop like YouTube ads I have no comment.
@swiftonsecurity: As someone who actually came up in prominence around Firefox extensions, browser extensions are truly insane basically rootkits for the online age. It is shocking what they can do to your life if any of them decide to not be nice one day.
@swiftonsecurity: If you are entirely negatively polarized against Chrome Manifest V3 you don't actually understand the stakes here. This is a backdoor to every company everywhere right now.
Christopher Stanley / @cstanley: Cyberhaven breach reported. Employee phished and pushed malicious chrome extension. Command and Control: 149.28.124.84 cyberhavenext[.]pro File Hashes: content.js AC5CC8BCC05AC27A8F189134C2E3300863B317F B worker.js 0B871BDEE9D8302A48D6D6511228CAF67A08EC6 0
Jaime Blasco / @jaimeblascob: VPNCity chrome extension also affected https://chromewebstore.google.com/ ... more than 50k users.
| Greg Otto / CyberScoop: |
Bluesky: @machete.gay, @metacurity.com, and @gregotto
X: @ryanrasins, @0xalexei, and @gregotto
Forums: r/technews, r/PrepperIntel, r/politics, r/espionage, and r/neoliberal
More:
Eric Tucker / Associated Press: A 9th telecoms firm has been hit by a massive Chinese espionage campaign, the White House says
A.J. Vicens / Reuters: US adds 9th telcom to list of companies hacked by Chinese-backed Salt Typhoon cyberespionage
David Strom / HotAir: Chinese Telco Hack of America Far Worse Than We Imagined
Ramat Adetunji / Neowin: US identifies 9th telecom hacked by China-based group Salt Typhoon
Martin Matishak / The Record: US adds 9th telecom company to list of known Salt Typhoon targets
Richard Lawler / The Verge: Salt Typhoon breach update.
Bluesky:
Olive Consumer / @machete.gay: You know, it probably isn't great the only politicians to note we've been in a cold war with China for the last however many years have had their brains melted by a combination of racism and being old enough to remember the Big Bopper. — apnews.com/article/unit...
X:
Ryan Rasins / @ryanrasins: Crazy to me that the worst cyber attack in American history has gone pretty much entirely under the radar. The Chinese are probably reading your texts *and listening to your calls* https://www.politico.com/... [image]
Alexei Bulazel / @0xalexei: Months after revelation of Salt Typhoon, one of the biggest hacks of US critical infrastructure this decade, we get: - @FCC regulations that will take months to years to implement - @USGSA review of federal contracts - @CommerceGov might block China Telecom but TBD Too little,
Forums:
r/PrepperIntel: A 9th telecoms firm has been hit by a massive Chinese espionage campaign, the White House says
r/politics: A 9th telecoms firm has been hit by a massive Chinese espionage campaign, the White House says