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| Patrick McGee / Financial Times: |
Estimate: Apple's iOS App Tracking Transparency policy has cost Snap, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube almost $10B in combined ad revenue in H2 2021 — Forcing apps to ask for permission to track users for advertising purposes leads to big hit for social media platforms
Tweets: @patrickmcgee_, @patrickmcgee_, @profcarroll, @cameronwilson, @nicholasvinocur, @patrickmcgee_, @maccaw, @iansherr, @sar_meta_web3, @privacymatters, @brettwhitmarsh, @rustybrick, @ashleygjovik, @chadloder, @ourielohayon, @carnage4life, @pt, @antoniogm, @mayazi, @psythor, @javierpallero, @pt, @jason_kint, @wholemarsblog, and @adamsinger
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Emma Roth / The Verge: Apple's app tracking policy reportedly cost social media platforms nearly $10 billion
Alyse Stanley / Gizmodo: Apple's Privacy Policy Cost Snap, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube an Estimated $9.85 Billion in Revenue
Tyler Lee / Ubergizmo: Apple's App Tracking Transparency Reportedly Cost Social Media Platforms $10 Billion
Malcolm Owen / AppleInsider: App Tracking Transparency has hit social media for $10 billion in lost revenue so far
Kate O'Flaherty / Forbes: Apple's Stunning New Strike To Facebook Is A Mind-Blowing Success
Tweets:
Patrick McGee / @patrickmcgee_: *New*: @Apple's privacy settings caused an estimated $9.85bn of revenues to evaporate in the second half of this year at @Snap, @Facebook, @Twitter and @YouTube, as their advertising businesses were shaken by the new rules Average impact on revenue: -12% *Thread* https://twitter.com/...
Patrick McGee / @patrickmcgee_: .@apple, meanwhile, reported a “record” quarter for its advertising business on Thursday, as its services segment beat revenue estimates by $700m to reach $18.3bn. Full story: https://www.ft.com/... @FT
David Carroll / @profcarroll: Facebook and others set to lose billions to Apple's cross-app tracking disclosure UX. Almost as if people actually do care about their privacy online and express it when given a meaningful choice. #DataRights https://www.ft.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Meta Cam Wilson / @cameronwilson: This is the rebuttal to the idea that people don't care about privacy. they do! when it's accessible, they'll protect their own privacy. the problem is that our system makes it nearly impossible without a structural shift like Apple stepping in like this https://www.ft.com/...
Nicholas Vinocur / @nicholasvinocur: Interesting. So this is what might happen if EU users were given a simple opt out option for data collection on big platforms under the GDPR. In other words, Apple did in one fell swoop what the GDPR has not in 3 years. https://twitter.com/...
Patrick McGee / @patrickmcgee_: Lost revenues will extend into the next quarters as the advertising groups rebuild using a privacy-centric paradigm. “New tools and frameworks need to be developed from scratch and tested extensively before being deployed to a high number of users,” says @eric_seufert
Alex MacCaw / @maccaw: @sar_meta_web3 100%. Apple has taken money from every SMB advertising on Facebook. There is nothing privacy violating about seeing if an ad converted or not.
Ian Sherr but spooky / @iansherr: It's fascinating to me that this is continually framed as the results of Apple's tech, and not people's choices when clicking a button. I wonder how it'd be framed if Apple had just made it an opt-out hidden in the privacy settings. Or if most people had opted in instead. https://twitter.com/...
Sar Haribhakti / @sar_meta_web3: Real victims are not listed here. It's SMBs. FB has been investing in vertical integration from discovery to transactions for years now. They will bounce back very soon https://www.ft.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Privacy Matters / @privacymatters: Users of Apple devices and products are captured by Apple. Ever tried preventing Apple using data about you to support its ads business or to prevent the display of ads? https://twitter.com/...
Brett Whitmarsh / @brettwhitmarsh: Engagement has taken a noise dive across platforms https://twitter.com/...
Barry Schwartz / @rustybrick: That is power - Apple... https://twitter.com/...
@ashleygjovik: #Apple, meanwhile, reported a record quarter for its advertising business, as its services segment beat revenue estimates by $700m to reach $18.3bn. “Apple has done a great job turning privacy into a PR play, but they wouldn't be doing this if there weren't money in it.” 💰💰💰 https://twitter.com/...
Chad Loder / @chadloder: Good. If companies can't make money without digitally stalking you, they deserve to fail. https://twitter.com/...
Ouriel / @ourielohayon: it cost them a lot more than that. It cost them losing control https://twitter.com/...
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: One interesting question is the impact this has on Apple's services revenue? Fewer clicked app install ads means fewer apps installed which means fewer whales buying IAPs which Apple gets 30% from. Search ads don't really make up difference since they don't create demand. Hmm.🤔 https://twitter.com/...
Parker / @pt: I wonder what percentage of Apple users know it's in the same business as Google and Facebook. https://twitter.com/...
Antonio García Martínez / @antoniogm: Advertising is governed by a huge knob with ‘privacy’ on one side knob's range...and ‘competition’ on the other. For some reason, we've decided to crank the knob all the way to the ‘privacy’ side, and are shocked, shocked at the result. https://twitter.com/...
Maya Zehavi / @mayazi: If you wanted dollar proof as to the power of controlling the OS & privacy. Turns out that selling hardware has built in leverage against competitors who rely on ads for revenues https://twitter.com/...
James O'Malley / @psythor: Seems bad that Apple is consolidating its control over a major consumer endpoint but on the other hand this is the least sympathetic issue in the world for the other companies to cry about. https://twitter.com/...
Javier Pallero / @javierpallero: Privacy. This is one of the important steps to get out of engagement-based crappy business models for platforms. https://twitter.com/...
Parker / @pt: Asking “would you prefer X or Y” will lead to very different behavior than asking “would you like X?” Of course this is Apple trying to screw competitors and ultimately consumers. They designed the dialog exactly to do that. https://twitter.com/...
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: Love it. And don't be mistaken, @PatrickMcGee_, google also gets a majority of its data from third parties. They're just seeing the offsetting benefit of android being a surveillance monster and holding off their own privacy improvements as long as possible. https://twitter.com/...
Whole Mars Catalog / @wholemarsblog: It's striking to see what a huge impact changes to Apple's software can have on their tech industry peers. They claim it's for user privacy, and that's true to some extent, but they're also benefiting from the fact that the rules don't apply to them. https://twitter.com/...
| Zack Zwiezen / Kotaku: |
After a three-day outage, Roblox says it is back online — According to Roblox's status page, all versions of the game have been down since Oct 28 starting at 7 pm EST — Roblox, one of the most popular games in the world, has been down for over a day now and while many frustrated players …
Tweets: @roblox, @roblox, @roblox, @roblox, @kotaku, @tomwarren, @tomwarren, @kotaku, and @benedictevans
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Ewdison Then / SlashGear: Roblox is now back online without any explanation for long outage [UPDATE]
Jon Fingas / Engadget: Roblox comes back online after three-day outage
Tweets:
@roblox: Quick update as we work to get things back to normal. We are incrementally bringing regions back online.
@roblox: We have identified root cause and solution. We are working on getting things back online and we will keep you updated throughout the day.
@roblox: We believe we have identified an underlying internal cause of the outage. We're in the process of performing the necessary engineering and maintenance work to get Roblox back up and running ASAP. Thanks for your patience.
@roblox: Roblox is back online everywhere! Thank you for your continued patience as we get back to normal.
@kotaku: Roblox's CEO says the platform's extended downtime was due to “a combination of several factors”: https://kotaku.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Tom Warren / @tomwarren: Roblox has issued a statement to The Verge on its nearly 48-hour outage, confirming its platform isn't down due to an “external intrusion.” Roblox says it's working “around the clock” to get Roblox back online. Details: https://www.theverge.com/...
Tom Warren / @tomwarren: Roblox has been down for nearly two days now, after first experiencing server issues on Thursday. @Roblox hasn't provided a status update for 20+ hours now, with millions of players left wondering what's going on https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
| Salvador Rodriguez / CNBC: |
In 2018, Oculus' Jason Rubin sent a paper to Facebook executives laying the foundation for Meta's ambitions and detailing the need to own the VR market — - In 2018, an Oculus executive named Jason Rubin wrote a 50-page document headlined “The Metaverse” that he sent to a Facebook board member and some top execs.Tweets:
Anil Dash / @anildash: I'm old enough to remember that when Microsoft finally came under serious regulatory scrutiny in the 90s, they started making more and more vaporware “concept videos” with big promises about shit that they never shipped, hoping to distract from the legitimate criticism.
Kevin Roose / @kevinroose: A truly terrifying document. And its author was promoted! https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Trey Titone / @treytitone: Glad to hear Facebook is embracing the concept of an open and interoperable metaverse. Sounds like they came to the realization in the last few years that a closed metaverse won't gain the same kind of traction. https://www.cnbc.com/...
Charlie Fink / @charliefink: In 2018, an #Oculus executive named Jason Rubin wrote a 50-page document headlined “The Metaverse” that he sent to a Facebook board member and top execs. #Facebook's #Meta mission was laid out in a 2018 paper declaring ‘The #Metaverse is ours to lose’ https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Austen Allred / @austen: Think people are way too quick to dismiss the Meta thing. I wouldn't bet against it.
@anandwrites: Owing to his monopoly power, every choice Zuck makes shapes our social interactions. He makes decisions about how we relate to our uncles and whether teenagers give each other strength or insecurity. So you see these videos, and you're like, This is the guy making those choices?
Matthew Ball / @ballmatthew: @FabricPaul I think FB is $12B, given it's a $10B loss despite $2B in revenue. But, there's no way Apple isn't $5B+ per year in similar R&D and can scale way faster. Microsoft is also in the mix, but like Apple, not shock and awe disclosing And then there's always the guys in a garage!
@wongmjane: Workrooms Remote Desktop is interesting. Instead of carrying my laptop, I can bring my Oculus Quest and keyboard to a coffee shop, wear the headset while typing in front of nothing and occasionally gesturing in the air. I'll look like the coolest person in the coffee shop :D https://twitter.com/...
Matthew Ball / @ballmatthew: The most pernicious Metaverse narrative is that which supposes that users, voters, consumers, developers, etc., have no agency in how the next generation Internet develops and are instead just along for a terrible ride. I simply do not agree https://twitter.com/...
@morningbrew: What Zuckerberg What it wants us to think actually is the metaverse is https://twitter.com/...
Polaris / @bulldozer747: https://www.cnbc.com/... The metaverse is likely to have more than one iteration living next to one another but separate. Think Betamax versus VHS or MS versus Google. One might be optimal for teams and one for leisure or adventure Then passports or tickets become a feature
K. Guillory / @kgpaints: I remember debating that FB/Meta wanted to own/combine virtual worlds for their control, and quotes were given to me proving they did not want that. Well? This new report says that's what the company initially planned to do. https://www.cnbc.com/...
@whiskey_n_wifi: Take your fake and virtual happiness and shove it where the sun does not shine. You all do NOT get to keep selling out our interests and then pacify us with fake and virtual happiness. cc: @Meta @SenateDems @HouseDemocrats @SenateGOP @HouseGOP https://www.cnbc.com/...
@jumanatag: So much to look forward to: “Priya can interact with others and use the metaverse currency to pay for her avatar's new hair style. Priya eventually meets another user who looks like a green and warty ogre. They end up getting married.” -jason rubin https://www.cnbc.com/...
Trevor Shim / @sunguroku: not tryna be alarmist, as a technologist it's honestly commendable that a behemoth like FB is making such a bold move but so much of the narrative here is around owning, commoditizing, and “winning” the metaverse https://www.cnbc.com/...
Brittain Ladd / @brittain_ladd: THIS IS WHAT FEW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE METAVERSE I began writing and speaking about Virtual Reality retail in 2013, and I continue to write articles on the topic. https://www.forbes.com/... There will be companies that exist... https://www.linkedin.com/... https://www.cnbc.com/...
Brian Hiatt / @hiattb: This is pure horror and should be avoided at all costs https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Thanks:@mattrosoff
| Gene Park / Washington Post: |
Meta is just playing catch-up as Roblox, Steam VR, VRChat, and other platforms have already developed metaverse-like experiences — In addition to announcing Facebook's rebranding to Meta on Thursday, Mark Zuckerberg delivered a number of lofty promises about the metaverse and its features.
Tweets: @ballmatthew, @nealstephenson, @harper, @harper, @sherishannon27, @mattrosoff, @karaswisher, @ibogost, @rubycosmos, @scalzi, @erratarob, @dansodergren, @xrandrew, @genepark, @ibogost, @genepark, @genepark, @mattniessner, @whrobbins, @nicnguyen, @dimeford, @michaelcarusi, @genepark, @genepark, @xuelder, @rosejackson3, @balajis, and @heatherkelly
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Tweets:
Matthew Ball / @ballmatthew: Balanced take from @GenePark - “Zuckerberg's Meta promises a ‘future’ these video games delivered years ago” - there's a reason why gaming, long a subordinated entertainment category (cue: absurd art debate) is now at the center of the next gen Internet https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Neal Stephenson / @nealstephenson: Since there seems to be growing confusion on this: I have nothing to do with anything that FB is up to involving the Metaverse, other than the obvious fact that they're using a term I coined in Snow Crash. There has been zero communication between me and FB & no biz relationship.
@harper: Facebook rebranding as meta and saying “we are the metaverse” is FB's way to “500 lb gorilla” their way into competition with Epic, Roblox, Minecraft, etc. They are losing the youth - their competition is not.
Sheri Shannon / @sherishannon27: I cannot get over how we lived through Zuckerberg's origin story as a villain. I bet this is how Elysium was started. https://twitter.com/...
Matt Rosoff / @mattrosoff: “If delivering the Metaverse we set out to build doesn't scare the living hell out of us, then it is not the Metaverse we should be building, it is not what customers want, and it is, therefore, meaningless,” 2018 internal doc: https://www.cnbc.com/...
Kara Swisher / @karaswisher: Smart piece: Zuckerberg's Meta promises a ‘future’ these video games delivered years ago https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
@ibogost: Two important things @EthanZ gets right here: Those of us who have been around a while know that all these replacement world ideas turned out to be dumb; and Facebook is scared to death of Apple. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Kara Dennison / @rubycosmos: Bro I'm literally just trying to RSVP for D&D night and send memes to my sister. https://twitter.com/...
John Scalzi / @scalzi: Oh, for fuck's sake. One, everyone who uses the term “meta” for anything can expect this asshole's lawyers to get all up in their business, which will be JUST GREAT, THANKS; Two, a racist authoritarian-leaning tech company by any other name still sucks. https://gizmodo.com/...
@erratarob: So back around 2000 I created the first IPS and called it “BlackICE”. I ended up reconciling with @GreatDismal (who coined in the term in such books as Neuromancer) and buying him a MacBook. https://twitter.com/...
@dansodergren: So very true. Might be on @BBCRadioScot on Tuesday morning to discuss this all... But might not be as feel a bit poorly and looking after Mia as well. So depends on the timings. But a very interesting subject especially as @roblox is down at the monet. Has been for 23 hours. https://twitter.com/...
@xrandrew: “The revenue model — the way that the makers of the system make money — is more important than anything else because it drives the technical features.” https://www.axios.com/...
Gene Park / @genepark: part of my passion in reporting about the metaverse stems from my genuine dread over how the media industry will (or won't) evolve. my instincts tell me that just as social media disrupted and tore apart journalism as a business, gaming and the metaverse may finish the job. https://twitter.com/...
@ibogost: It's interesting that this had to be said. (Note too that Stephenson is “Chief Futurist” at hyperfunded, underproduced AR megafauna Magic Leap.) https://twitter.com/...
Gene Park / @genepark: Facebook is playing catchup to the metaverse, make no mistake, this is fact. Here are the gaming platforms and games that already offer much of Zuckerberg's “future.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Gene Park / @genepark: I give a shout out to Ubisoft's historical tours in the Assassins Creed series. As a geek for Egyptian history it was heaven to stand among marketplaces from 2,000 years ago and learn more. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
Matthias Niessner / @mattniessner: The “Facebook -> Meta” rebranding is quite a big deal for computer vision & graphics research. It's a long-term commitment by a trillion dollar tech company to virtual 3D cyberspaces (aka metaverse), driven by virtual/augmented reality tech, which is great for our field!
Will Robbins / @whrobbins: Asimov wrote the Three Laws of Robotics in the 1940s Stephenson coined “Metaverse” in 1993 Is there any sci-fi written over the past 25 years that will be relevant in 2050? Or have we past the golden age of sci-fi? https://twitter.com/...
nic noooOOOoooyen / @nicnguyen: neal stephenson would like to be excluded from this narrative please and thank you https://twitter.com/...
Pete Haas / @dimeford: And even if Facebook wasn't behind on features, it's SO far behind these other companies on trust. https://twitter.com/...
Michael Scare-usi / @michaelcarusi: @GenePark The fact that people still treat gaming as a cute little kids' pastime will never cease to amaze me. Minecraft alone is one of the most successful entertainment properties probably in human history since that gets brought up a lot.
Gene Park / @genepark: so no. i do not believe the current media ecoysystem has infinite room for perspectives. i don't expect brian stelter or jim cramer to talk about the metaverse at length in any context outside of the facebook lens. if im wrong, i'll be glad for it. but its not happening now.
Gene Park / @genepark: thank you this is my overall point. this is just “games” so in the eyes of many editors, news directors, cable news anchors etc, it doesn't have anything to do with the future of the internet, when it always has. https://twitter.com/...
@xuelder: @MichaelCarusi @GenePark Pokemon, a gaming institution, is the biggest franchise in the world. Pikachu is a more valuable mouse mascot than Mickey.
Rose Jackson / @rosejackson3: Why I've been urging folks to take the gaming world more seriously. It is often the leading edge of tech and social tech innovation, that then becomes mainstreamed for the world. A lot gets baked in early on, in an industry that gets ignored by policymakers and mocked by others https://twitter.com/...
| Kevin Roose / New York Times: |
Facebook's metaverse is designed to solve several problems: an aging userbase, dependence on Google and Apple, regulatory risk, and reputational damage — If his new strategy works — a big if — it could help address several of Facebook's biggest problems.
Tweets: @hadley, @jason_kint, @paulskallas, @kmjeezy, @reuters, @denniskendel, @drtechlash, @evleaks, @ericverdin, @sushilaaron, @frankpasquale, @msense_app, @facebook, @senwarren, @kenroth, @donal_okeeffe, @zackbornstein, @ozraeliavi, @babblingbrookea, @vancityreynolds, @bettemidler, @meta_pr1, @mayazi, @mayazi, @jeffjohnroberts, @mayazi, @matthewstoller, @adamnash, @sbyrnes, @kenmhaggerty, @dkthomp, @digiphile, @birdyword, @joannastern, @oliverdarcy, @jstn, @tablehopper, @docdre, @dkthomp, @edzitron, @mshannahmurphy, @harrymccracken, @snowden, @fvogelstein, @benedictevans, @jeffbercovici, @fmanjoo, @jordannovet, @snazzyq, @nytimes, @richardfausset, @nytimesbusiness, @davewiner, @ismaelnafria, @gabrielsnyder, and @teddyschleifer
More:
Om Malik / On my Om: MetaJob — Facebook, if nothing else, is good at diverting attention away from itself and its pesky public relations nightmares.
Kara Swisher / New York Times: Facebook Gets a New Name
Dylan Byers / Puck: Interview with Zuckerberg on Meta, his vision for the metaverse, managing Facebook's recent controversies, and what the internet will look like in a decade
Mathew Olson / The Information: Mark Zuckerberg on Why He Won't Step Down as CEO and Facebook's New Name
Emily Walsh / Insider: Former Google CEO says Facebook's metaverse is ‘not necessarily the best thing for human society’ and expresses concerns about safety of artificial intelligence technology
Matt Stoller / BIG: Enough is Enough: The Criminal Case Against Mark Zuckerberg
Chandraveer Mathur / iPhone Hacks: Top Apple Stories of the Week: Facebook Renamed to Meta, iFixit Tears down MacBook Pro and Polishing Cloth, More
Sam Wolfson / The Guardian: Metaverse, Mars, meditation retreats: billionaires want to escape the world they ruined
Nick Heer / Pixel Envy: Facebook Announces Its Fantasy Benevolent World to Avoid Its Current Problems
Tweets:
@hadley: Feels like the battle for the metaverse is shaping up like Ready Payer One (great book, meh movie) Innovative Online Industries=Facebook/Meta Nolan Sorrento=Zuckerberg Gunters=Crypto/Web3 community but instead of winner takes all there is opportunity for everyone to win
Jason Kint / @jason_kint: Thank you for pointing this out. I'm tired of being critical of the access trading that happens with Facebook. It's bad enough in normal months when the company isn't in hair on fire crisis mode desperate for positive attention. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
LindyMan / @paulskallas: People spending 10 hours a day on facebook/twitter/tik-tok/instagram and then laughing at Zuckerberg's Metaverse
@reuters: Facebook's rebranding that focuses on building the ‘metaverse’ was met with skepticism and surprise by some social media users and experts https://www.reuters.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Dennis Kendel / @denniskendel: Facebook's announcement that it is changing its name to Meta has caused quite the stir in Israel where the word sounds like the Hebrew word for “dead”. https://twitter.com/...
Nirit Weiss-Blatt, PhD / @drtechlash: According to @BBCWorld, my comment on “meta = dead” (in Hebrew) sparked a trend. Peak career. I can retire now 😆 https://twitter.com/...
Eric Verdin / @ericverdin: How to face-lift to a geriatric social network: create a creepy Metaverse. Has Zuckerberg not learned what 18 months of Zoom calls has done to our collective psyche? We need real human interactions to be happy https://www.nytimes.com/...
Sushil Aaron / @sushilaaron: “If it works, Mr. Zuckerberg's metaverse would usher in a new era of dominance — one that would extend Facebook's influence to entirely new types of culture, communication and commerce.” - @kevinroose https://twitter.com/...
Frank Pasquale / @frankpasquale: “Had social networking emerged in the 1960s, it would have turned out very differently, because much of what Zuckerberg did - such as buying competitors to monopolize an industry - would have been considered illegal.” https://mattstoller.substack.com/ ...
@msense_app: We are very honoured that @facebook felt inspired by the logo of our migraine app - maybe they'll get inspired by our data privacy procedures as well 👀 🤓 #dataprivacy #meta #facebook https://twitter.com/...
@facebook: Announcing @Meta — the Facebook company's new name. Meta is helping to build the metaverse, a place where we'll play and connect in 3D. Welcome to the next chapter of social connection. https://twitter.com/...
Elizabeth Warren / @senwarren: Facebook changing their corporate name to Meta isn't going to change the underlying facts. They're a monopoly. They crush competition. And they refuse to control the spread of misinformation and harmful content on their site. We need to break up Facebook. https://twitter.com/...
Kenneth Roth / @kenroth: “A metaverse strategy...could finally get Facebook out from under Apple's and Google's thumbs” so “it doesn't need to worry about getting kicked out of the app store for snooping on users' activity or aiding the illegal trafficking of domestic workers.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
@donal_okeeffe: I think this is the best description of Facebook I've seen in ages: “a Boomer-dominated sludge pit filled with cute animal videos and hyperpartisan garbage”. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Zack Bornstein / @zackbornstein: That face when you just wanted a faster way to rank girls by looks and ended up enabling a fascist coup in the richest country on earth https://twitter.com/...
Ryan Reynolds / @vancityreynolds: If Facebook can rebrand as Meta without asking me, then I get to rebrand myself as Birthday Reminders, no questions asked. Happy Birthday @AndyRichter.
@bettemidler: Facebook is changing its name to Meta. “Knock knock!” “Who's there?” “Meta!” “Meta who?” “Meta whistleblower & instead of improving the way we do business, we're gonna pretend to be a new business!”
@meta_pr1: Rebranding from #Facebook to #Meta is not an attempt to remove negative associations around Facebook from the internet. We've already paid Google a bunch of money to do that for us.
Maya Zehavi / @mayazi: - Amazon's marketplace includes the same surveillance but also owns the cloud for other application. The market is their business, all sides of it - Apple sells the best package & experience tailored according to their rules, their payment rail, App Store, identity & security
Maya Zehavi / @mayazi: Notice Apple, Amazon & Google are after the same thing, only the difference between the FAANG is what biz model they use to monetize. - Google owns Android, search & mail which is enough to monetize selling user data & surveillance, but the Android distribution is . advantage
Jeff Roberts / @jeffjohnroberts: @mayazi Smart thread. But isn't hardware FB's achilles heel? Remember the facebook phone a few years back... I agree Zuck is trying to wrest control from Apple et al, but pulling it off is going to be a tough task
Maya Zehavi / @mayazi: The underrated Zuck move: FB realized that the only sustainable biz model in the stack is one that requires them to own the the OS & hardware. The move to Meta is about to be followed by a shift to more FB owned devices other than the new watch & Occulus (VR headset)
Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller: I've had it with endless Facebook scandals. The only way to change behavior is a criminal investigation of Zuckerberg and fellow FB insiders, and there's a strong case for the DOJ to pursue one. https://mattstoller.substack.com/ ...
Adam Nash / @adamnash: @sbyrnes The consumer demand for VR is inevitable, more of a question of who will end up developing the platform(s) for it. Very hard to see a world where VR doesn't happen, more of an inevitable outcome of technology improvement. Timing, of course, does matter...
@sbyrnes: This is the problem with the “metaverse” strategy. Facebook is pursuing it because it's good for Facebook, not because there is real consumer demand. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Ken M. Haggerty / @kenmhaggerty: @kevinroose I really think everyone is overthinking the “3D chess” behind this. It's just what Mark Zuckerberg thinks is the cool new thing, and he wants to be the person & company to do it. I really don't think it's much more thought out than that.
Derek Thompson / @dkthomp: @edzitron you're either saying the same thing as Kevin, or missing his point: the fact that the Metaverse doesn't exist in any way is exactly why it's a useful escape hatch! “Mark, we'd like to talk about current disinfor-” “May I interest you in this unfalsifiable tech dream?”
Alex Howard / @digiphile: “The metaverse isn't about building perfect virtual escape hatches—it's about holding a mirror to our own broken, shared world. @Facebook's promised metaverse is about distracting us from the world it's helped break.”-@ethanz https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Mike Bird / @birdyword: Zuckerberg saying “Never surprise people” and Clegg replying “Right, and that means being transparent” simply has to be a UK political in-joke that someone was paid to include.
Joanna Stern / @joannastern: I just watched @boztank's AMA on Instagram and it's by far the best summary and Q+A of what Meta is trying to do, especially with Facebook logins, Quest and more. For those with questions I suggest watching.
Oliver Darcy / @oliverdarcy: “This isn't a vanity stunt for Mr. Zuckerberg,” @kevinroose writes. “In the metaverse, he has found what may be an escape hatch — a way to eject himself from Facebook's messy, troubled present and break ground on a new, untainted frontier.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Justin Ouellette / @jstn: for context: john carmack is a game dev god and the ‘consulting’ CTO of oculus, the hardware lynchpin of fb's metaverse https://twitter.com/...
Marcia Gagliardi / @tablehopper: “The bleakest version of what Facebook might become in the next few years [...] — a Boomer-dominated sludge pit filled with cute animal videos and hyperpartisan garbage — is clearly not the kind of thing the company wants as its flagship product.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Thot Leedurr / @docdre: here we go with this technophilic rhetoric: “untainted” and “frontier” *sigh* https://twitter.com/...
Derek Thompson / @dkthomp: This is a great frame from @kevinroose FB faces - aging risk - platform risk - regulatory risk - reputation risk Meta - skews young w VR/AR - vertically integrates hardware + software - is pre-regulation - is a reputationally unsettled tech frontier https://www.nytimes.com/...
Ed Dead Redemption / @edzitron: Somehow this misses that they don't really have any kind of metaverse product https://twitter.com/...
Hannah Murphy / @mshannahmurphy: As Zuck pushes Meta, academics call for metaverse regulation “Meta treats the world as free digital real estate, a resource for corporate extraction, surveillance, commercialisation. This speculation must be preceded by state permit, licence, fee, or tax” https://www.ft.com/...
Harry McCracken / @harrymccracken: And now for some praise of Facebook's rebrand. https://www.fastcompany.com/ ...
Edward Snowden / @snowden: Facebook is Facebook. Don't write about the name, write about what they do, because that's what matters. Paperwork doesn't change the nature of a thing.
Fred Vogelstein / @fvogelstein: Remember when FB went down a few weeks back?A compelling theory on why from friend Chris @SpotOnPolitics “They were migrating (internal systems/web pages/DNS) to Meta. Someone fucked up.Small DNS transfers are hairy. Imagine doing it across millions of servers around the world.”
Benedict Evans / @benedictevans: Looking again at how Apple demos Smart Home stuff while rewatching Facebook's VR demos from yesterday. https://twitter.com/...
Jeff Bercovici / @jeffbercovici: Zuckerberg “was presented with research showing that associating any of the company's products with the Facebook brand caused trust to drop,” but kept slapping it on stuff anyway before yesterday's reversal, reports @sal19 https://www.cnbc.com/...
Farhad Manjoo / @fmanjoo: the meta logo is so bad. The thumbs up was a good logo! Directly tied to the product, sunny and whimsical. smushed infinity is inoffensive anodyne corporate nothingburber.
Jordan Novet / @jordannovet: fun scoopage from @sal19 on forcing the ‘from Facebook’ name into Instagram and other company products https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Quinn Nelson / @snazzyq: This is sad. Oculus name has a lot of legacy. “Meta Quest” sounds like a bad 90s sitcom. https://twitter.com/...
@nytimes: The “metaverse” isn't a vanity stunt for Mark Zuckerberg, @kevinroose writes. “He has found what may be an escape hatch — a way to eject himself from Facebook's messy, troubled present and break ground on a new, untainted frontier.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Richard Fausset / @richardfausset: “a Boomer-dominated sludge pit filled with cute animal videos and hyperpartisan garbage...” https://www.nytimes.com/...
@nytimesbusiness: Facebook's vision for an immersive virtual environment it calls the metaverse could help solve at least four big, thorny problems it faces here in the terrestrial world. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Dave Winer / @davewiner: Journalism writes about their version of reality, which is different from actual reality. Here's a link to the story (no paywall). https://www.nytimes.com/...
Ismael Nafría / @ismaelnafria: The Metaverse Is Mark Zuckerberg's Escape Hatch If his new strategy works — a big if — it could help address several of Facebook's biggest problems. Buen análisis @nytimes https://www.nytimes.com/...
Gabriel Snyder / @gabrielsnyder: in light of the hellscape that Facebook constructed in social media, this description of the metaverse it wants to now build reads like pure sci-fi dystopia https://about.fb.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Teddy Schleifer / @teddyschleifer: Some Meta news — “Meta” used to be a brand owned by the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan's philanthropy. Meta, for unrelated reasons, is sunsetting. And so Facebook and CZI “entered an agreement to transfer those brand assets to Facebook.” Full news. https://twitter.com/...
| Ethan Zuckerman / The Atlantic: |
Meta's promised metaverse is going to be boring and is meant to distract us from the world that Facebook helped break — In a booth at Ted's Fish Fry, in Troy, New York, my friend Daniel Beck and I sketched out our plans for the metaverse. It was November 1994, just as the graphical web …
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Chloë🧃🐛 / @chloe_somethin: [slowed down video of Zuckerberg speaking] his face after he says “connecting with people” made me scream
Carole Cadwalladr / @carolecadwalla: We are in deep, deep unchartered waters but I think we may look back & see this as Facebook's Week Zero. This week's presentation & rebranding needs to be seen for what it is: a scorched earth policy. The past does not exist. There is only future 1/ https://twitter.com/...
Grant Cardone / @grantcardone: Zuckerberg & Meta trying to get you to live in virtual world. • Focus on the real world, real things, real people. • Read actual books. • Experience nature. • Get dirty • Do real work • Get your kids outside.
Scott Adams / @scottadamssays: I hate that I have to refer to Meta as “the company formerly known as Facebook” for the next year.
@foone: To be fair to Zuckerberg, if I owned Facebook and Oculus, I'd be pivoting hard to “the metaverse!” too. “hey are you that guy who made the site that destroyed democracy and made everyone racist?” “nah, I do VR videogame things”
Elizabeth Warren / @senwarren: Facebook has grown so big that they're no longer able to control the real world damage caused by the platform. They prioritize profits over limiting the spread of misinformation & violent content. It's time to break up Facebook & finally hold them accountable. https://twitter.com/...
@apompliano: I just watched the entire Facebook keynote about VR/AR, the metaverse, etc. Regardless of whether you think they can pull it off or not, it's hard not to be impressed by how quickly technology is evolving. The future is going to be wild.
Don Winslow / @donwinslow: Remember: Even after all the horrors that have come out about Facebook you did not see thousands or hundreds or even a hundred employees quit the company in protest. When your 401k is more important than kids lives dying because of your company's actions you don't have a soul.
Ryan Broderick / @broderick: [Responding to @KhabyLame reaction video] Facebook is advertising their metaverse project with an influencer who not only got famous on TikTok, but became famous thanks to the duet feature, which Facebook didn't make, and his early videos were largely lampooning the top down DIY videos that Facebook popularized!!!
Shannon Watts / @shannonrwatts: Who is advising Facebook on hand motions? They must be stopped. https://twitter.com/...
Ksam.Sol / @kylesamani: I have watched every major keynote by every major tech co over the last ~15 years And the Meta keynote is by far the best and most important one January 2007 iPhone keynote will be looked back on as a rounding error https://www.youtube.com/...
Their Excellency Elan Morgan / @schmutzie: “There's no way for any massive tech company to build the metaverse without becoming the villains.” Whenever Zuck tries to lead in tech rather than build out what others have already made possible, he fails us. Remember “pivot to video”? https://www.pcgamer.com/...
@herrurbach: „The metaverse isn't about building perfect virtual escape hatches—it's about holding a mirror to our own broken, shared world. Facebook's promised metaverse is about distracting us from the world it's helped break." You all should read this by @EthanZ https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Kara Swisher / @karaswisher: Smart piece by @EthanZ The Metaverse Was Lame Even Before Facebook - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Lilian Edwards / @lilianedwards: When they can put Live Journal's sense of community online with full haptic and kinaesthetic feedback so I can imagine I'm snorkelling the Barrier Reef without having to fight the Oz authorities & quarantine for 10 days - well, come back to me.
Lilian Edwards / @lilianedwards: Ppl dont want to live in a virtual world. They want to talk to ppl in the real world via virtual connections. Zoom has done more with the online life than a 1000 metaverses. The other great winner of Covid is Discord which looks like a 90s bulletin board.
Max Levchin / @mlevchin: Is this time different? Trip down the memory lane by @EthanZ alone is worth the read: https://www.theatlantic.com/ .... Ask me about my 1994 attempts at a metaverse controlled by a Nintendo Power Glove. Better yet, don't 😂
@chrismessina: Excepting the internet and web, plenty of open standards initiatives to open up competition w/ Facebook failed due to disinterest & lack of vision and execution. Why should I believe the market will behave differently and answer Zuck's call for an open metaverse API? 🤷🏼♂ ️ https://twitter.com/...
@mpesce: I reckon we may need to start using the term ‘#meta-adverse’... The metaverse is bullshit https://www.pcgamer.com/...
Martin Tisn / @martintisne: “How will a company that can block only 6 percent of Arabic-language hate content deal with dangerous speech when it's worn on an avatar's T-shirt or revealed at the end of a virtual fireworks display?” @EthanZ on “meta's verse” https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Flick Ruby / @flickrubicon: “Let's be frank about this: Facebook's metaverse sucks...The graphics are a little better—though frankly, not that much better. ..But that's not the problem with Zuckerberg's metaverse. The problem is that it's boring.” Fantastic and entertaining article https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
@johnquiggin: The Metaverse looks like a reinvention of Second Life which was a rehash of earlier failures https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Roland Meyer / @bildoperationen: »From the first images in which legless torsos sit around a conference room, staring at a Zoom-like videoconferencing screen, to Zuckerberg's tour of his virtual closet .., Zuck's metaverse looks pretty much like we imagined one would look like in 1994.« https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Phil Wainewright / @philww: The more I read about Zuck's Meta keynote, the more I'm reminded of the scene in Big when the Tom Hanks character makes his big product presentation. “Let's be Frank about this: Facebook's metaverse sucks” writes @EthanZ https://www.techmeme.com/...
Ethan Nagel / @eanagel: @Moonalice ... ...an open, standards-based metaverse is really the best chance we have for something less destructive to society than facebooks vision.
Eva Wolfangel / @evawolfangel: But that's not the (only) problem with Zuckerberg's #metaverse. “The problem is that it's boring. The futures it imagines have been imagined a thousand times before, and usually better.” #meta https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Carl Heath / @carlheath: Show Crash. The holodeck. Second Life. Insightful reflection on the old dystopian dream of the metaverse as a means to leave our physical scarred world behind. https://twitter.com/...
David Weinberger. Blm / @dweinberger: .@Ethanz delivers a brilliant, acerbic history of failed metaverses to explain the pathetic blindness of Zuckerberg's vision. #meta https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Chris Heilmann / @codepo8: “The metaverse isn't about building perfect virtual escape hatches—it's about holding a mirror to our own broken, shared world. Facebook's promised metaverse is about distracting us from the world it's helped break.” Excellent article by Ethan Zuckerman https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Lilian Edwards / @lilianedwards: You don't need to read any more about FBs metaverse after this : it has all. And my what peak nostalgia time for Second Life among the oldies. I remember when every London law firm got itself a 2L island - I dont know if they had virtual orgies there tho https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Kat / @chipswoon: “The problem is that it's boring. The futures it imagines have been imagined a thousand times before, and usually better.” @EthanZ has nailed my feelings on the Metaverse. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
@theatlantic: “Facebook can claim originality in at least one thing,” @EthanZ writes. “Its combination of scale and irresponsibility has unleashed a set of diverse and fascinating sociopolitical challenges that it will take ... at least a generation to fix.” https://on.theatln.tc/z9GzZ9P
Jeffrey Goldberg / @jeffreygoldberg: “The metaverse Zuckerberg shows off in his video doesn't have to solve those problems. He's promising future technologies that are five to 10 years off. But it still looks like junk.” — @EthanZ: https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Ben Tarnoff / @bentarnoff: A lot of the commentary on Facebook announcement boils down, “it looks like shit.” But I mean, so did the internet in the 80s. Takes a lot of patient funding for technologies to achieve liftoff, which is historically been DARPA's role
Ethan Nagel / @eanagel: @Moonalice ... Interesting read be he seems to miss that timing is everything. Yes 26 years ago, metaverse was going to fail. And 10 and 5. Because the technology wasn't there. But an immersive VR experience is coming. Facebook is the last company that should be building it...
Srijith Nair / @srijith: @EthanZ's article on Metaverse building details some of the pertinent issues in the second half of the article. However, the biggest issue is left mostly unexplored - who is building it and how it will be built. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
Nathalie Maréchal, PhD / @marechalphd: @EthanZ nails it. The Metaverse was boring before Facebook. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Jack Shafer / @jackshafer: “There is not a single person in existence who has scanned Facebook's News Feed and said: Yes, immerse me in this reality. I want to feel my uncle's meme about Hot Pockets on my face.” https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Roger McNamee / @moonalice: .@EthanZ is always must read, but this essay is a delicious stew of history lesson, snark, and serious analysis. https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
Ben Tarnoff / @bentarnoff: It's true that metaverse-ish stuff has existed before: VR, SecondLife, etc. But Facebook is essentially a state, with state-like resources at its disposal. If DARPA could summon the internet into existence, why can't Facebook do it with the metaverse? https://www.theatlantic.com/ ...
| Wall Street Journal: |
Experts say sourcing chips has almost turned into a lottery amid the global chip shortage, as wait times ballooned to 22 weeks in October — Nearly a year into the crisis, some customers are finding it is taking months more than expected to get needed parts
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Axel Merk / @axelmerk: You can wait. Or make it a priority to re-invent your business. My guess is companies pursuing the former will fail; those pursuing the latter will thrive. https://www.wsj.com/...
James Pethokoukis / @jimpethokoukis: “The global semiconductor shortage is worsening, with wait times lengthening, buyers hoarding products and the potential end looking less likely to materialize by next year.” https://www.wsj.com/...
Ian Garrick Mason / @iangarrickmason: Probably wise to start limiting the role of computer chips in your life: older vehicle, non-smart appliances, home that doesn't listen to you. I need a desktop machine and a smartphone, but beyond that everything is as dumb as it should be. https://www.wsj.com/...
| Siddharth Venkataramakrishnan / Financial Times: |
A look at “creepypasta”, ghost stories such as Slender Man that spread online, and how decentralized myth-making can explain the rise of meme stocks and QAnon — Or: how the tale of Slender Man can explain the rise of QAnon. … These words, posted on a forum in 2009 … Tweets:
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: The big online challenge for Democracy isn't Russian interference or misinformation but instead decentralized online movements. G*mergate, QAn*n, meme stocks, #BLM, #MeToo and Stop the Steal are all examples of online movements with real world consequences https://www.ft.com/...
Izabella Kaminska / @izakaminska: A cracking Halloween weekend read on @FTAlpha by @SVR13 on the creepypasta phenomenon and how it feeds into a wider decentralised myth-making trend that uses fear to influence real world behaviors (as well as investments). https://www.ft.com/...
| Adam Satariano / New York Times: |
YouTube's mistaken deletion of a channel belonging to UK news outlet Novara Media draws criticism over the company's power as a content regulator — Novara, a London news group, fell victim to YouTube's opaque and sometimes arbitrary enforcement of its rules.| Politico: |
Industry and government officials say Gaia-X, a project to reduce the EU's cloud dependency on US tech giants, is clogged by infighting and bloated bureaucracy — The initiative, meant to boost Europe's cloud services, is failing to fix the problems it was intended to solve.Tweets:
Laurens Cerulus / @laurenscerulus: Gaia-X was meant to rid Europe of its dependence on foreign cloud giants. Our reporting shows the initiative fails to deliver on that promise. We spoke to insiders to reveal infighting, bloated bureaucracy & opaque processes. Story w @clothildegouj: https://www.politico.eu/...
@erratarob: This is an insightful description of the cloud business. But it also applies to any successful large-scale computer project: they started as something else and grew. https://twitter.com/...
@hostilespectrum: This quote needs to be engraved on the door of every office working on combat cloud, JEDI follow on, or whatever successor efforts are dreamt up in which somehow .gov will generate comparable capabilities to private sector. https://twitter.com/...
Mathew Ingram / @mathewi: Something involving the EU is crippled by bloated bureaucracy and infighting? Incroiable! https://www.politico.eu/...
X-Alternative / @x__alternative: “One industry official closely involved in the work of Gaia-X called it a mess.” Quelle surprise. https://www.politico.eu/...
Euclidia / @euclidiaeurope: Politico mentions @EuclidiaEurope as one possible solution to creating Europe's digital sovereignty as Gaia-X seems to be failing to solve it. https://www.politico.eu/...
@jaycuthrell: +15 years: Hyperscale public cloud service providers invest to enable globally diverse infrastructure to support well-architected frameworks.💰☁️ +15 months: GAIA-X Policy Rules and Architecture of Standards support geopolitical data sovereignty and balkanization frameworks.⚖️🤔 https://twitter.com/...
Halvar Flake / @halvarflake: You can't build a greenfield cloud. None of the existing clouds are greenfields. They are all outgrowth of ridiculously profitable and cash-flow-rich businesses. Building a cloud is likely the single most capital-intensive business you can be in. https://twitter.com/...
| Daisuke Wakabayashi / New York Times: |
Apple's $19 Polishing Cloth has become its most back-ordered new product with shipments delayed until January; source: the company isn't surprised by the demand — It's a $19 cloth. — OAKLAND, Calif — Apple this month unveiled an array of new gadgets: more powerful MacBook laptop computers …
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Sam Goldheart / iFixit News: 2021 MacBook Pro Teardown: A Glimpse at a Better Timeline
Tim Higgins / Wall Street Journal: Apple Expected to Report Results That Mark a Record Year With iPhone 12
Andrew Williams / Forbes: Leaked Image Offers First Look At Facebook's Apple Watch Rival
Usama Jawad / Neowin: Apple's $19 Polishing Cloth is backordered into 2022 due to immense popularity
Mitchell Clark / The Verge: iFixit actually tore down Apple's backordered $19 screen cloth
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Tony Tassell / @tonytassell: If you have ever wondered about how much thought goes into Apple pricing in the UK, this is a @nytimes article about the cost of Apple's $19 polishing cloth. In the UK, it sells for £19 https://www.nytimes.com/...
Catalin Cimpanu / @campuscodi: I don't get it. It's just a piece of cloth. What's wrong with people? https://twitter.com/...
@parikpatelcfa: Microsoft has just overtaken Apple to become the largest company in the world by market cap. This makes sense because Microsoft is researching DNA to revolutionize data storage while Apple's idea of innovation is a $20 white cloth.
@ijustine: Oh and yeah of course I did an unboxing of the Apple $20 cloth: https://www.youtube.com/...
Karen Weise / @kyweise: OMG, @daiwaka. “An Apple official said in an interview, based on the condition that The New York Times not quote or identify her, that the company was not surprised by the demand for the Polishing Cloth.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
Michael Kukielka / @detroitborg: Apple says it's ‘not surprised’ by strong demand for its $19 Polishing Cloth, now backordered to 2022 https://9to5mac.com/...
Philip Elmer-DeWitt / @philiped: Comic relief: iFixit tears down and iJustine unboxes the Apple Polishing Cloth (video) https://youtube.com/... https://www.ped30.com/...
Charlie Warzel / @cwarzel: truly feel like i've made it after clicking on an NYT story about an expensive Apple polishing cloth and getting served an ad to buy a jet. https://twitter.com/...
Kontra / @counternotions: You know what's great about the tech business? If you don't like Google Pixel, Samsung Galaxy Fold, Amazon Echo or Apple Polishing Cloth, you don't have to buy it. For (mostly) successful supply/demand pricing, it's good to remember $AAPL doesn't leave money on the table.
Kevin Roose / @kevinroose: Apple is Supreme for nerds. (To be clear, I want the cloth.) https://www.nytimes.com/...
Daisuke Wakabayashi / @daiwaka: It's that time of year. Apple has new iPhones, iPads, watches, AirPods, etc. But an unexpected and unheralded new product has the longest wait times for customers: a $19 cloth for wiping smudges and fingerprints off screens https://www.nytimes.com/...
Christopher Mims / @mims: Very excited for the analyst note asserting that if Apple's Polishing Cloth were a standalone business, it would be a Fortune 500 company https://www.nytimes.com/...
| Mitchell Clark / The Verge: |
Meta acquires Within, the company behind VR fitness game Supernatural; Within will continue working on the game and help Meta improve future VR hardware — The company already owns Beat Saber — Meta has announced that the studio behind VR workout game Supernatural will be joining the company …
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Scott Stein / CNET: Meta acquires VR fitness subscription service Supernatural
Jason Rubin / Oculus Blog: Within to Join Meta
Emanuel Ortiz / Game Rant: Facebook Acquires VR Fitness App Supernatural
Nathaniel Mott / PCMag: Meta's Acquiring a VR Fitness App Maker Called Within
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Ryan Broderick / @broderick: The metaverse acquisitions have begun... https://twitter.com/...
Sap Vemulapati / @sawpex: so facebook wants to build an open metaverse but own 9 out of 10 developers who are building for the metaverse? how is that open? https://twitter.com/...
Kelly Bourdet / @kellybourdet: I think VR has potential cool applications, but I have a hard time imagining fitness naturally being one of them? Ironically, it looks like this woman is smashing through a tv screen, which is what would happen if I engaged in any meta fitness in my home https://www.cnet.com/...
Parker / @pt: Huh. Seems like a good one to me. VR is very isolating from the humans around you (vs non-immersive media), and I think this has hindered adoption, but working out is a great inwardly-focused solo activity. https://twitter.com/...
Boz / @boztank: Fitness in VR has brought people together over a renewed sense of joy in movement. We look forward to partnering with Within to grow and accelerate their vision for fitness experiences and explore other areas centered around social, community, and beyond: https://www.oculus.com/...
Cristina Caffarra / @caffar3cristina: So FB buys an app that tracks fitness data. To further plans for connected smartwatch+smart glasses+"neural input accessories". Merger control can't touch it & if it did, wld at most say “okay, maybe don't use data for digital advertising"#antitrust_fail https://www.cnet.com/...
CIX.eth / @cixliv: So, remember what I said about VR Fitness? @FBRealityLabs “Meta” just acquired @getsupernatural Looks like the data was showing I was right. https://www.cnet.com/...
Alex Heath / @alexeheath: Facebo.. er Meta keeps buying up the best VR studios. Will seem insignificant to most until it's not. https://twitter.com/...
Rat King / @mikeisaac: Faceb— .......meta acquires VR fitness app makers “Within” https://www.cnet.com/...
CIX.eth / @cixliv: @BartronPolygon ... Cross ecosystem doesn't matter if there is no other ecosystem That's what zuck wants
Bart Trzynadlowski / @bartronpolygon: @tacolamp ... MR devices will be far more restrictive than any other computing platforms — including phones. That's the sad reality. All the big use cases will be dominated by BigTech. But one lever that still might exist is cross-ecosystem support.
Alex St. Louis / @alexstlouis10: @tacolamp They want to own it all, so expect acquisitions of social apps like VRChat or RecRoom, heck they might even go all out and acquire Capcom to get the Resident Evil IP permanently under their wing for that AAA game content in the metaverse.
CIX.eth / @cixliv: @EricPresidentVR ... Yo Facebook doesn't have any vision except getting out from under Apple This vision is just them watching data trends from usage on their platform, that's it They don't have any ethos, the leaks prove that Ffs I promised I'd take a break from Twitter
@andreelijah: Uhmmm hey @boztank - feel free to acquire me ANY time, I've got bills to pay! https://twitter.com/...
Brielle Garcia / @tacolamp: @boztank Stop acquiring every company that gains any traction in this space! A healthy industry can't grow if they just get consumed by the the largest player in the space. Unless controlling the entire space is the point. I think the answer to that is pretty clear by your actions.
Russell Holly / @russellholly: Supernatural is $19/month, and in VR scale has a fairly significant audience. There are very few successful monthly subscription services in VR, and only one at this price point.
Russell Holly / @russellholly: Back in April of 2020, when Supernatural first started getting some buzz, the Facebook-owned Beat Saber released the track Fitbeat in response. It was super clear this single track was released as a reaction to Supernatural, but it was not enough to detract from this success.
Russell Holly / @russellholly: Whether because of the pandemic or because it's genuinely a great platform, Supernatural continued to grow despite being the most expensive monthly fitness service by a considerable margin. Facebook couldn't compete with this, so it acquired Supernatural instead.
Casey Newton / @caseynewton: I've spent more time in Supernatural than any other VR app. And because ... Meta owns the Oculus Store, it has perfect data on time spent + revenue. It's their new Onavo. So it's not too surprising that Supernatural belongs to Meta now https://www.theverge.com/...
Mike Futter / @futterish: I love Supernatural. I think the team is amazing. I think this is going to be great for the owners. I really don't love this news, though. Supernatural has been instrumental in my fitness journey. And now Facebook is going to own my workout data. https://twitter.com/...
Wagner James Au / @slhamlet: @jank0 @MikeIsaac If top-selling Beat Saber which is really fun, a great cardio workout, and keeps adding new content, can't sustain its peak (and still relatively small) CCU, why does Facebook think they can do better? https://nwn.blogs.com/...
Ian Hamilton / @hmltn: This marks the first time I've been able to use two relevant quotes recorded in separate interviews inside virtual reality. https://twitter.com/...
@mkarolian: @MikeIsaac Supernatural is actually a ton of fun and the only thing I've found that I actually like to do in VR.
Sar Haribhakti / @sar_meta_web3: Excited to see the likes of Lina Khan declare these acquisitions illegal ten years from now Zuck gives no fucks https://www.cnet.com/...
Scott Stein / @jetscott: Facebook (Meta) just bought another game company. But this is a fitness company, subscription workouts, that pair with Apple Watch heart rate https://www.cnet.com/...
Vishal Shah / @vishalshahis: I'm a huge fan of Supernatural personally, and the community they've built around fitness in VR is truly inspiring. I'm looking forward to having them join us and bring more joyful experiences to the metaverse. https://twitter.com/...
Kevin Roose / @kevinroose: If I was an antitrust regulator, I'd be less concerned about emails Mark Zuckerberg wrote in 2013 and more concerned that Facebook is acquiring every VR start-up with a pulse. https://www.oculus.com/...
@scobleizer: @alexeheath ... Apple is working on a fitness service that is way way way better. Shit, Apple Fitness already is way better. And I love Supernatural and have used it many hours. The founder @milk was the first to show me modern-day VR too. Great sale. Got out at the right time.
Alex Heath / @alexeheath: @benedictevans @MsHannahMurphy Not for all of them, but Supernatural was absolutely making money and growing faster than Peleton based on what I've heard
Benedict Evans / @benedictevans: @alexeheath @MsHannahMurphy Is there a viable independent business for them? I get the impression there was a lot of experimental budget around a few years ago but that's all dried up now, and the actual use base is still small.
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Tweets:
@talkpoverty: When education went online, surveillance followed. The scope of that surveillance was incredibly wide. But low-income people are used to surrendering their privacy to access benefits and services. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
@bw: Big Teacher is watching. An app called GoGuardian tracks everything students (and, sometimes, parents) do online https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Michelle Throatbama / @gawkgawkthwack: One day we're gonna have to acknowledge, confront & dismantle the secret chokehold big data has on us https://twitter.com/...
Illinois Families / @il_fps: “No matter where kids are, Hinderliter watches GoGuardian closely every day. During the pandemic, she watched bills get paid and unemployment forms get filled out on student laptops, knowing her kids' Chromebooks were often the only computers at home.” https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Priya Anand / @priyasideas: Since the pandemic, schools have become surveillance hubs. NYC schools and entire states use GoGuardian, which tracks & analyzes the online activity of 23 million+ students across the country story for @BW with @mhbergen https://www.bloomberg.com/...
Josh Eidelson / @josheidelson: “They pretty much know that they're being monitored 24/7...” https://www.bloomberg.com/... @BW From the dream team: A @Priyasideas & @mhbergen collab
Tom Giles / @tsgiles: Some of the stuff teachers see students searching for: guitar tutorials, faming simulation games, “sugar daddy dating” https://twitter.com/...
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@nick4iezos: I've always had a feeling that digital media traffic was... ... ...fishy 🐡 https://twitter.com/...
Raju Narisetti / @raju: On ‘Wicked Problems’ a thoughtful Nilay Patel @reckless, in @VanityFair https://www.vanityfair.com/...?
Rebecca Lehmann / @beckylehmann: Possibly the best thing I've ever read about pandering to the algorithm, LOL... https://twitter.com/...
James Chalmers / @profchalmers: Remember that period on Twitter where we all spent our time looking at video of fish being shot through a cannon for some reason? https://twitter.com/...
Brandy Zadrozny / @brandyzadrozny: Editors, be like @reckless. https://www.vanityfair.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Martha Smith / @mostlymartha: A million years ago, I wrote for a lifestyle site that made us do a certain number of stories per day that combined any two Yahoo Buzzwords. https://twitter.com/...
Brian Kung / @briankung: This might be my favorite offbeat piece of news this year https://twitter.com/...
@kevinmnye1: Sometimes it's a nice break from feeling like we live in a tragedy, to feel like we live in an absurdist comedy https://twitter.com/...
Dave Bulmer / @demontomatodave: Every single online content creator who sees this tweet, read the excerpt in the picture https://twitter.com/...
Rakshtashi Robinson / @tasharobinson: Now I'm a little bummed that I got hired at @Verge too late for Fish Fridays. I could have written about BIG FISH, and A FISH CALLED WANDA, and PASSION FISH, and THE FISHER KING, and a bunch of Laurence Fishburne movies... https://twitter.com/...
@whitneyarner: my old job did a bunch of ridiculous things chasing the yahoo clicks (like redesigning our whole homepage to fit their preferred image specs) but none were as funny as this https://twitter.com/...
Catholic Democrats / @catholicdems: In Catholic households, this is just called “Friday.” https://twitter.com/...
Brian Koerber / @bkurbs: i can confirm that mashable had a similar deal with yahoo and would ALWAYS pick up stories about fish https://twitter.com/...
Dawn Xiana Moon / @dawnxianamoon: “The algorithm loves stories about fish.” The computer manipulated a group of humans into spending hours making content about what it wants to see. When it's fish, it's hilarious. But it's also Facebook, Google, et al in a nutshell, which often has less amusing impacts. https://twitter.com/...
Walt Mossberg / @waltmossberg: Look! @reckless is being interviewed in @VanityFair! It's well worth a read! https://www.vanityfair.com/...
David Pierce / @pierce: I have always believed in @reckless' view of good gadget reviews as something much more than just buying advice, and still think he's dead right about it https://www.vanityfair.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Mike Masnick / @mmasnick: Yup. We have deliberately never shared traffic info with anyone who writes for us (even one contributor who begged for the info). Hell, I barely check our traffic myself (it's been at least 4 months since I last looked). https://twitter.com/...
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| Foreign Affairs: |
Tweets:
@foreignaffairs: Former supporters of a global Internet now envision a world fractured between competing blocs, each relying on its own hardware and software suppliers. Read @gwbstr and @jshermcyber why an open Internet is worth fighting for. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
@foreignaffairs: Far from a level playing field, Internet access and the benefits that flow from it remain highly unequal. But democracies must not abandon the goal of an open global Internet and deepen the technological divide even further, @gwbstr and @jshermcyber argue. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
@sariarhohavren: “Many thinkers..believe China represents a model of digital authoritarianism that must be confronted, or at least isolated. In this darkening light, the global Internet can appear like a naive dream of years past.” https://reader.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Chad P. Bown / @chadbown: Cyber-utopians once dreamed of liberation spreading from an Ethernet cable. Now Washington must ensure that its companies don't spread exploitation and insecurity instead. Responsible techno-globalism starts at home. By @gwbstr & @jshermcyber https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life: Idea of an open & global internet is no longer in favor even among democratic countries like USA & India. The internet & social media allow people to come together & challenge power. Now every major government wants to assert control. The people are losing https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Graham Webster / @gwbstr: Latest @ForeignAffairs: Over the last few years, the US and other governments have dropped “global” from their vision for technology, substituting democratic vs. authoritarian blocs. @jshermcyber and I argue for a newer, better techno-globalism. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ... 1/
@charlesmok: If the open internet fails, it will count as a win for democracy's adversaries. The Fall and Rise of Techno-Globalism Democracies Should Not Let the Dream of the Open Internet Die https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
@foreignaffairs: The world's democracies must not abandon their long-standing support for an open global Internet, warn @gwbstr and @jshermcyber. A permanent technological divide is not just impractical—it would increase the risk of conflict. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Raquel Carretero / @raquelinacj: “A stark technological divide is not just unrealistic but also undesirable. Embracing a trend toward politically delineated technological ecosystems will undermine the open ethos that fuels and benefits freer societies” via @ForeignAffairs https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
@foreignaffairs: “The democratic countries where techno-globalists were once unrestrained in their advocacy of an open Internet now have become preoccupied with technology's risks.” https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Justin Sherman / @jshermcyber: NEW: @gwbstr and I in @ForeignAffairs — why democracies shouldn't abandon the ideal of a global internet, as some are doing right now https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
@foreignaffairs: Efforts to piece together an international, democratic, rights-respecting coalition on technology governance will fail if they do not acknowledge that such a project is inherently a global one, argue @gwbstr and @jshermcyber. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
Jason Pielemeier / @pielemeier: Spot on ⬇️ from @gwbstr & @justins: “Embracing a trend toward politically delineated technological ecosystems will undermine the open ethos that fuels and benefits freer societies—and bolster the top-down, controlling ethos favored by repressive regimes.” https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ ...
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Florida Funders / @floridafunders: “These days, there's a sense among the most active startup investors that ‘now you have to cover Florida’.” https://news.crunchbase.com/ ... #floridatech #VentureCapital #angelinvestment
Kevin Ruiz / @kevin_a_ruiz: 2020 vs YTD 2021 Series A/B: $277M⬆️$1.3B, All Stages: $1.2B⬆️$1.7B @CityofMiami @Manolo4Miami @FrancisSuarez @saif305 @Sarasti @kcarswell01 @shoshani_adi @jglasner @eMergeAmericas @knightfdn @refreshmiami @Shrimp_Society_ @HardTechMiami @crunchbase https://news.crunchbase.com/ ...
@crunchbasenews: Florida companies raised just over $1B in early-stage funding so far in 2021, our data shows. That's nearly quadruple the sum raised in all of 2020. What's behind the momentum? We look at the factors driving the state's diverse and growing startup scene. https://news.crunchbase.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
| Wall Street Journal: |
Tweets:
Nick Clegg / @nickclegg: I think most reasonable people would acknowledge that social media is being held responsible for issues that run much deeper in society. If Facebook didn't exist, these issues wouldn't magically disappear. More thoughts on what we should do here: https://www.wsj.com/...
Amy Klobuchar / @amyklobuchar: We can't just keep blindly trusting companies like Facebook to do the right thing. Promises of “we've got this” just aren't cutting it. We need transparency and action on the algorithms that govern so much of our lives. https://www.wsj.com/...
@flavionunespt: It strikes me that, when discussing how to fix social media, Americans look at the problem as exclusively affecting their country and society, rather than a global issue harming communities everywhere. A stark example: https://www.wsj.com/...
Alice Salisbury / @alicesalisburyj: But your honour, the bin was already on fire All I did was pour on gasoline, then sell marshmallows to the people who came to watch the house burn down https://twitter.com/...
Ari Ezra Waldman / @ariezrawaldman: Really good thread noting the logical fallacy at the core of Clegg's disdainful argument. https://twitter.com/...
Andrew Fraser / @arfness: Ffs. That is completely mis-stating the issue, and is a complete strawman. Nobody is blaming Social Media companies for causing the issues. They're being blamed for amplifying the bad stuff and profiting from it. https://twitter.com/...
Alison McCauley / @unblockedfuture: “There are quite a lot of online hubs where strangers talk all day long in a very civil fashion ... smallness makes all the difference. These groups have a sense of cohesion.” @pomeranian99 in: https://www.wsj.com/...
@mckra1g: This is claptrap. Social media was used to identify & amplify wedge issues, using weighted algorithmic mechanisms designed to generate outsized & extreme divisions for the purpose of generating revenue for Facebook. #Meta #Metaverse https://twitter.com/...
Chris Stokel-Walker / @stokel: The bit you haven't said is how social media is making those issues that run deeper in society *worse* https://twitter.com/...
Andy Burrows / @_andyburrows: I'd love to have the chance to explain our @NSPCC assessment of how Facebook design choices contribute to preventable abuse and grooming pathways. Civil society wants to work with all reasonable people to address it. Up for the discussion, Sir Nick? https://twitter.com/...
Gary Rosen / @garyrosenwsj: Nicholas Carr: “If we're to solve today's problems with social media, we first need to acknowledge that companies like Facebook, Google, and Twitter are not technology companies, as they like to present themselves. They're broadcasters.” https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
Justin Hendrix / @justinhendrix: “Reasonable people” would acknowledge your position is a scarecrow. Hardly anyone believes social media is the prime cause for society's issues. What “reasonable people” object to is your company knowingly making things worse and making billions while at it. https://twitter.com/...
Damian Collins / @damiancollins: Once again @nickclegg asks the wrong question. It's not whether Facebook is the cause of societies problems or just reflects them. It's that by amplifying hate for profit Facebook is making things much worse. Their failure to confront this is why we need independent regulation. https://twitter.com/...
David French / @davidafrench: I'm honored to participate in the @WSJopinion symposium on “fixing” social media. Government intervention is the wrong answer. “How many tech panics must we endure before we understand that the problem is less our technology than our flawed humanity?” https://www.wsj.com/...
Roger McNamee / @moonalice: A truly epic thread by @justinhendrix in response to dishonest framing by Nick Clegg. https://twitter.com/...
Rachel Riley / @rachelrileyrr: This is embarrassing. I've been in meetings with Facebook where they're happy to leave up Nazi-level content, inside groups whose members compete to post more and more rabid material. You can literally track their entire radicalisation on the platform. What a crock. @CCDHate https://twitter.com/...
Brian McCullough / @brianmcc: What's this now? Ok. The Eternals have assembled. Super. https://www.techmeme.com/...
@daraghobrien: Issues can exist which are then amplified and pushed to their most extreme through algorithmic filter bubbles and a corporate ethos that puts bottom line before the line in the sand. A reasonable person would acknowledge that victim-blaming is never a good look. https://twitter.com/...
Joe / @why0hy: The saddest thing is that I *know* @nickclegg is too clever to believe any of this and it is pure sophistry. #facebook. https://twitter.com/...
@richardgomer: This is such a disingenuous take. I think most reasonable people realise that Facebook and other social media must take some responsibility for design decisions, which have - inadvertently - become drivers of radicalisation and misinformation. https://twitter.com/...
@wsj: Twelve leading figures from tech, government and academia—including Nick Clegg, Amy Klobuchar, Josh Hawley, Sherry Turkle and Jaron Lanier—discuss how to deal with the problems posed by the biggest social-media sites https://www.wsj.com/...
Kate Bevan / @katebevan: If Facebook didn't exist, I suspect January 6 might not have happened. https://twitter.com/...
Peter Smith / @redpeter99: How ex senior politicians use their influence and contacts speaks volumes for their character. Clegg and Cameron may be very rich but they are hollow. https://twitter.com/...
Justin Hendrix / @justinhendrix: The worst part of this is that Facebook's own researchers are “Reasonable people.” “Reasonable people” produced this insight into how your platform makes things worse. https://www.wsj.com/...
Tom McSlay / @thetomzone: I think most reasonable people would acknowledge that the Italian American community is being held responsible for conduct that runs much deeper in society. If this thing of ours didn't exist, these crimes wouldn't magically disappear. More thoughts on what we should do here. https://twitter.com/...
Molly Jong-Fast / @mollyjongfast: [Clegg: “I think most reasonable people would acknowledge that social media is being held responsible for issues that run much deeper in society."] Obviously we're being unreasonable and it's not that your platform elevates far right voices, except it does
Tom Coates / @tomcoates: @nickclegg Social media *isn't* being held responsible for these things. *FACEBOOK* is being held responsible for some of these things because *FACEBOOK* has not done enough to counter them!
David Clinch / @davidclinchnews: @nickclegg I believe your outline of what kind of new regulation should be introduced is important but there is no need to change 230 to get this done. Also, antitrust, data protection and harmful content regulation should be dealt with in separate regulations that solve for each issue.
Tom Coates / @tomcoates: @nickclegg It's very easy to start blaming the whole category to try and distract from the fact that Facebook has about one content moderator for every 100,000 users! That Facebook doesn't have moderators that speak the languages of much of the world and so hate speech is unchecked!
Marco Rogers / @polotek: Facebook is now *asking* to be regulated. I take 2 things from this. 1. They see the writing on the wall. They're shifting to “how do we control what the laws say?” 2. This validates what we already knew. The only way to stop them is regulation. They will not stop themselves. https://twitter.com/...
Liam Ketley / @kiamletley: @nickclegg Mate if there's a fire and I pour two billion litres of gasoline on it I don't get away with it cos it was already there to begin with.
Anton Ferdinand / @anton_ferdinand: @nickclegg What type of nonsense is this? When talking about discrimination on ur platform, which I assume u mean when using the term issues how about we see some accountability & get rid of it on ur platform. You can protect society from it if you want to! The question I'm asking is do u??
Molly Jong-Fast / @mollyjongfast: @nickclegg I'm here for the ratio
Mike Duckett / @duckett_mike: @nickclegg Oh how you've changed. Back in 2010 I actually believed you wanted a better, fairer world. Now you defend a company that amplifies hate for add money. Yes the issues exist in society, but Facebook lights a rocket under them and makes them thousands of times worse.
Luke Zaleski / @zaleskiluke: @nickclegg Boy seeks human connection in the world's worst possible way. Boy destroys all human connection. Boy becomes very “connected” recluse. Blames the world
BobbyThorne / @bobbythorne7: @nickclegg Ah, the old 'guns don't murder people, people do' argument. Doesn't wash, I'm afraid Nick, sometimes you need to remove the weapon.
Jo Maugham / @jolyonmaugham: @nickclegg Do you have any evidential basis for asserting what ‘most reasonable people’ would acknowledge? Or are you, true to form, spreading fake news?
@slpng_giants: @nickclegg The reasonable people at the UN concluded that your company touched off a genocide, Nick. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Tom Coates / @tomcoates: While we're at it, Nick Clegg should know better then to say that private companies don't have a responsibility to behave ethically unless government legislates to force them to do so!
Tom Coates / @tomcoates: It's particularly ridiculous for Facebook to say that they need the government to tell them what's acceptable in the US when the government is *literally constitutionally forbidden from doing so*.
Tom Coates / @tomcoates: Social media isn't being held responsible for these things, *Facebook* is being held responsible because *Facebook* has over and over again chosen to turn a blind eye to their negative externalities in order to maximize income! https://twitter.com/...
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Malcolm Owen / AppleInsider: Compared: 16-inch MacBook Pro vs Razer Blade 15 Advanced
Brenda Stolyar / Wired: Apple's New MacBook Pro Is a Notch Above the Rest
Stephen Warwick / iMore: Poll: Did you buy any of Apple's new products this week?
Tweets:
Mike Evans / @mikeev: The @verge's review of the 2021 MBPs really made me reconsider the Max: For continuous, everyday use, the 16" model with the Pro lasted 16 hours, while the same chassis with the Max could only muster ~10. That's a 37.5% drop in battery life. https://www.theverge.com/...
David Hewson / @david_hewson: Who's going to use a laptop for 16 continuous hours? Mine's nowhere near and I never get close to the battery running out. https://twitter.com/...
Parker / @pt: Power users: How about an iPhone that lasts 16 hours? It would be fine if it were a little thicker. Apple: message received. https://twitter.com/...
Ian Betteridge / @ianbetteridge: Two full working days. https://twitter.com/...
Ashlee Vance / @ashleevance: Apparently, you're gonna need a cloth for your cloth https://www.ifixit.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@om: Sometimes a polishing cloth is not just a polishing cloth. https://www.ifixit.com/... https://twitter.com/...
@bayumurti94: @Techmeme @JoannaStern iPhone: Touch ID Mac: Face ID But actually I'm OK with Mac not having Face ID since I use Apple Watch to unlock most of the time. I press the keyboard/touchpad just before sitting down and it will be unlocked just after
Alex Grebenyuk / @a_grebenyuk: “But the M1 Max has a whole bunch of extra GPU cores to power, and that drains the battery faster. I asked Apple, and the company confirmed the M1 Max uses more power both when idle and when active.” https://www.theverge.com/...
Neil Shah / @neiltwitz: I prefer both solutions for laptops. Though, @Windows Hello is flawless, snappy and secure, one of the best case for facial recognition on laptops removes serious cognitive load. . Fingerprint is a good fallback option. #biometrics #unlocking #laptops https://twitter.com/...
Wesley Miller / @getwired: @elkmovie ... I have to wonder if High Power Mode was on... because Tom's Hardware shows 15+ for a 16 Pro Max. https://www.tomsguide.com/...
Dylan / @dylandkt: As tempting as these new MacBook Pros are, 😅 I won't be upgrading. Professional work with software development and graphic design on my M1 MacBook Air has been a fantastic experience.
Vadim Yuryev / @vadimyuryev: People are saying that the MUCH faster SSDs on the new M1 Pro/Max MacBook Pros don't really matter or give you any real-world benefits.. WRONG! They're forgetting about SSD caching ;) Hint: You guys will be blown away in our 16 vs 32GB RAM video.
Luke Miani / @lukemiani: The new MagSafe connector is soooo thin, but feels just as strong as on older MacBooks! I suspect the thin-ness is to do with future much thinner MacBooks with the M2 chip 😈
Michael Love / @elkmovie: I'm skeptical, but if M1 Max really means a 40% drop in battery life, it wouldn't bother me much personally but seems liable to be a major scandal and maybe even produce a class-action lawsuit or two. (Apple's marketing makes no mention of this gap) https://twitter.com/...
Nilay Patel / @reckless: @getwired ... It was not on, and also Apple confirmed to me that high power mode only does one thing: allows the fans to spin faster
Anshel Sag / @anshelsag: This logic only works for phones, facial recognition is 100% the correct solution for a laptop or desktop. I cannot remember the last time I actually typed my password into a desktop or laptop to log in outside of initial setup. https://twitter.com/...
Daniel Jalkut / @danielpunkass: The most remarkable thing about the M1 Macs is how much stuff “just works”. A testament to the 3rd party developers who adapted quickly to the new architecture, and to Apple's Rosetta 2 team, among others. What a great experience as a Mac user and developer.
Ben Bajarin / @benbajarin: @joshjagdfeld When Apple inevitably puts FaceID on M1/2 Macs next year it will be nearly unnoticeable. That's how fast it will log you in.
Joe Rossignol / @rsgnl: Stealing this Slack comment from @SamiFathi_ this morning but it really does feel like there was a “second embargo” on MacBook Pro reviews today with videos from The Verge, WSJ, and Snazzy Labs.
Steve H.McFly / @onleaks: Shocking and shameful @apple!🤣 “The new #Apple Polishing Cloth earns a 0 out of 10 on our repairability scale” (@iFixit) -> https://fr.ifixit.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Michael Kukielka / @detroitborg: You have to appreciate the design of these even more from the inside. MacBook Pro 2021 Teardown: Easier to Repair, Harder to Score... https://www.youtube.com/... via @YouTube
Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi: Apple MacBook Pro 14 and 16 review: return to form https://www.theverge.com/... “Absurd RAM pricing” is being sensational (at best) since it does not account for an entirely different RAM model. While $800 for 16->64, a Dell (base=8GB) is $400 excl. discrete GPU you'd add and upgrade.
Nilay Patel / @reckless: I came very close to giving the 16-inch M1 Pro a 10, but... a $3099 computer needs to be absolutely perfect, and it's not perfect. It's also expensive, with a ridiculous $400 upcharge if you want 32GB of RAM. So 9.5 it is.
David Ruddock / @rdrv3: oh man, this is a laaaaame answer. We all know the real one: Apple won't make a laptop lid thick enough to house all the components. I'm guessing they're waiting for the tech to downsize enough to make it happen, they're CLEARLY preparing people with that notch. https://twitter.com/...
Abhishek Baxi / @baxiabhishek: Ummm... nope. It's opposite actually. My phone is in my palm and a finger can move to a fingerprint sensor without much travel. On a laptop, my hand is either on the edge of the lid whole opening or on trackpad/keyboard far from the fingerprint sensor. https://twitter.com/...
Quinn Nelson / @snazzyq: The New MacBook Pro Is Even Better Than I Expected! https://www.youtube.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Ray Wong / @raywongy: “We make the world's best touch computer on an iPad. It's totally optimized for that. And the Mac is totally optimized for indirect input. We haven't really felt a reason to change that.” Apple's “explanation-not-an-explanation” GJ @JoannaStern tho! https://www.wsj.com/...
@ccieby30: Really it's because you can unlock the Mac with your watch but they won't admit that 😂😂 https://twitter.com/...
Ben / @bencsin: I'd argue the the other way: Face ID makes sense on laptops over Touch ID, while for phones Touch ID makes more sense than Face. On a phone for SURE your thumb is already near screen. On laptop my fingers aren't always near upper right corner of keyboard https://twitter.com/...
Laura Calabazas / @freezydorito: man what i really hate about using my laptop is opening it up every day and then picking my face and having to put it in front of it https://twitter.com/...
Steve Troughton-Smith / @stroughtonsmith: Apple *finally* has laptops with incredible PC-class GPUs that could run the latest games... ...but almost no games developers have followed Apple to ARM, and w/ the 32-bit cutoff and deprecation of OpenGL, Apple has burned a lot of bridges; a lot of trust needs to be earned back
Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi: I've been working non-stop on the MacBook and continue to be amazed at the entire package. It is weird not to ever hear a fan, especially more noticeable because the speakers are so good. I'm using a Razer dock and the lack of “futzing” adding/removing is impressive. 💯
Joanna Stern / @joannastern: But I'll say this. The battery life on these are great but the fine print is bonkers. Settings to get to 21 hours: - M1 Pro chip - Brightness at 50% - Wi-Fi off - True Tone off - Ambient light sensor off - Keyboard backlight off - Downloaded video in Apple TV app
Nat Bullard / @natbullard: “We have escaped from Dongletown” is one of the better product review lines I've read @reckless @mcsquared96 https://www.theverge.com/...
Dieter Bohn / @backlon: I just checked the wordcount on the review and it's over 4000 words that's a lot of ... MacBook Prose https://www.theverge.com/...
Christopher Mims / @mims: This video review of the new Macbook Pro looks absolutely gorgeous on my 16" laptop that cost 20% as much https://twitter.com/...
Joanna Stern / @joannastern: Apple claims 21 hours of battery life on the new 16-inch MacBook Pros. Someone had to test it. My video review: https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Joanna Stern / @joannastern: Now that the new MacBook Pros are nearly perfect and fix pretty much everything we've complained about, what do the future of the MacBook look like? Touchscreens? Water resistance? I asked Apple. My review of the new MacBook Pros: https://www.wsj.com/...
Monica Chin / @mcsquared96: Our MacBook Pro review is here! Check out our video to see me nerd about benchmarks for several minutes and stare concernedly at laptop screens https://twitter.com/...
Nilay Patel / @reckless: Our review of the new MacBook Pros are here! - M1 Max 16 is the fastest laptop we've ever tested in creative tasks - M1 Pro 16 went *16 hours* during a normal workday on battery - Extra GPUs on the Max not worth the battery hit if you don't need them https://www.theverge.com/...
Tom Warren / @tomwarren: our MacBook Pro 14- and 16-inch reviews are live. “The 16-inch MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro ran for 16 hours on its battery during continuous use, making it the longest-lasting laptop we've ever tested.” Sixteen Hours 16 hours 🤯 https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...